Can you hear them now?? Lorain City Schools

November 13, 2010 at 1:54 pm 22 comments

UPDATE on the Update- And then there were two- and no body knew it was there
http://www.morningjournal.com/articles/2010/11/16/news/mj3679799.txt

http://chronicle.northcoastnow.com/2010/11/16/lorain-high-demo-uncovers-problems/
Update :”Come Watson the games afoot”- our intrepid history detectives are on the trail of “The Case of the History Held Hostage” – it seems there is more to this than meets the eye- ;)

those pesky voices from the past who are calling to be recognized?

Lorain High - Mark Teleha


The Lorain City Schools and their “past” adventures have been in the news the last couple of days
from a corner-stone of Lorain High School and a time capsule ending up as “fill” or landscaping found by a “student” albeit in a different school system.

I would recommend reading the Chronicle article by Rona Proudfoot it is more in-depth

http://chronicle.northcoastnow.com/2010/11/12/amherst-teen-has-big-find-in-backyard-%e2%80%94-lhs-1914-cornerstone/

However the Morning Journal also has some coverage by Freddie Hunt

http://www.morningjournal.com/articles/2010/11/13/news/mj3660231.txt

Photo Mark Teleha
Why the corner-stone ended up where it did ? No matter the demo crew or the LCS the fact is there was “no follow through and accounting” for this piece of Lorain’s past by someone ( sound familiar) – and it was only by luck this “corner-stone ” (which I was told personally months ago would be incorporated somewhere in the new building) could have been landfill for the ages. This was someones “job of work” for which they were compensated by the taxpayers – no matter a private corporation or the LCS system.

And on the local blog “Buster’s House”http://bustershouse.wordpress.com/
Lisa points out the words from the past – have they been lost to Lorain too?

http://bustershouse.wordpress.com/2010/11/12/wise-words-from-the-past/

You can also access the complete demolition as covered by Mark Teleha on his blog here
http://www.locophotogblog.com/?p=438

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  • 1. Loraine Ritchey  |  November 13, 2010 at 2:31 pm

    and for those interested
    http://thatwoman.wordpress.com/2008/06/29/fare-thee-well-darlene/

    the property upon which the old Lorain High sat was owned by a runaway slave who settled here -

  • 2. Lisa  |  November 13, 2010 at 2:53 pm

    Thanks for the link :-)

    It’s always something… :roll:

  • 3. thatwoman  |  November 13, 2010 at 3:09 pm

    Reading the PDF file on your blog all I can say Those were the days…………………….

  • 4. thatwoman  |  November 13, 2010 at 3:26 pm

    Also if you go to Mark’s site
    http://www.locophotogblog.com/?p=432 you will see in a pile of rubble a part of the scroll work from the building – Settlers’ Watch is waiting to get a piece as a hat tip (along with the Lorain High brick pathway ) to Lorain High – hope that was saved… and we are hoping for some of the iron work under the panels at Irving at least one to incorporate in the Settler’s Watch garden… actually I have an idea for a water feature combining them but won’t know just yet how I can combine the two pieces until I see sizes etc. …. hopefully next spring will bring results. Loraine

  • 5. Mark  |  November 13, 2010 at 4:01 pm

    Thanks Loraine. This is what happens when folks that aren’t from Lorain, are entrusted with its history.

  • 6. Loraine Ritchey  |  November 13, 2010 at 4:14 pm

    Mark

    Is there more than one corner stone ? hmmmmmmmmmm a history detective is on the case :)

    Trouble is we lose so much in this community and then by the time we find out the significance it has gone……. you find the house in the sketch yet? :)

    http://danielebrady.blogspot.com/2010/11/1960s-memories-of-skyline-drive-part-4.html and of course

    http://danielebrady.blogspot.com/2010/10/ebenezer-greggmyron-foote-house.html

  • 7. Grammy  |  November 14, 2010 at 9:47 pm

    At one point I had in my possession papers from the old administration building and was hard pressed to find anyone who was interested. The historical society had even turned them down, or so I was told. Finally found someone who said they’d keep them. Amazing how people ignore history. Without it we are no one.

  • 8. Loraine Ritchey  |  November 14, 2010 at 10:59 pm

    it is the building block of a society and identifies who we are ….it has always surprised me Lorain as a city had so little regard …if it hadn’t been for the folks at BRHS then Lorain would be historically bankrupt……. the many owing the few once again ( hmmm where have I heard that before ;)

  • 9. Dennis Lamont  |  November 15, 2010 at 3:41 am

    Does it make you wonder why people make the decisions they do where they have no idea how the necessity to make the decision came about. IMO the teabaggers act as it they just fell off the Christmas tree and woke up in a strange country, totally oblivious as to how we got here, ready to accept all sorts of BS and bogey man lies. A little bit of history on a local, state and federal level makes thing a lot clearer.

    It really irritated me when a brash congressional newbie made the comment “we are here to take our country back”, HA back to the dark ages more than likely.

  • 10. Loraine Ritchey  |  November 15, 2010 at 5:22 pm

    Well Dennis there is apparently more “history” behind the “time capsule caper” we will see if the media feels it is a worthwhile story to follow up- :) actually it may be a case of “business as usual” hmmmmmmmmmm anyway speaking of history and also of the current charity post..Somewhere I read and to be honest I can’t get the desire up to search through files but I seem to remember reading how in the “back and beyond” of Lorain there was a “community fund” where those on hard times ( and times were pretty hard in Charleston Village for just about everyone) anyway people could access this fund I believe it was a dollar in return for doing a job work and it was set up that way so the men etc felt no shame in needing help ,,,, if I come across the paragraph I will post it…..

  • 11. thatwoman  |  November 15, 2010 at 5:31 pm

    There is a press conference at Charleston at 2:00 I am told and as mentioned in the comment is there more than ONE and truly luck was in….. ……and have we now retrieved all the corner stones and artifacts we wait…… ?

  • 12. Mark  |  November 15, 2010 at 7:11 pm

    Actually Dennis, the Tea Party-ers, which is the correct name, have know all along what’s been happening with the country. It’s the folks that voted for Obama in the first place, that recently woke up and realized that all he originally promised was a pipedream, they were the ones that turned around and voted the Republicans back in. Health care, the Apology Tour, and all the other malarky that Obama/Pelosi/Reid have inflicted on this country was too much for even THEM to take. Dark ages? We were headed towards the dark ages with the dems in charge. Where do you think the housing and bank crash came from? Democratic insistence that EVERYONE should be a homeowner, even the ones that were having a hard time paying RENT!!! Brilliant.

  • 13. Dennis Lamont  |  November 15, 2010 at 8:42 pm

    Sorry Mark
    I have a hard time with screaming, shouting, name calling, hiding behind a flag or getting even, on any side ….all this excitement left 52% of the voters unimpressed, some mandate. One thing, if we can’t work together, we will all go down together …still expecting that Polaroid moment when 60 seconds and zip everything is fixed. If they do the job fine, maybe we’ll elect them again, if not we go another round, that’s what it”s all about.

  • 14. colmatt  |  November 16, 2010 at 1:13 pm

    Glad you are on top of all of this, thanks Lorain for posting the info here … I wrote a letter to the editor for our local papers that can be found on my website here, as a response to this craziness of the time capsule:

    http://newindianridgemuseum.org/category/articles/

    (BTW, Mark, I agree)

  • 15. thatwoman  |  November 16, 2010 at 1:14 pm

    Thanks Matt will have a look Loraine

  • 17. colmatt  |  November 17, 2010 at 2:41 am

    How in the world could School Board Member Mr. Smith say that he never knew this cornerstone existed? He is on the Morning Journal’s website in a video saying this……did he ever see the outside of the building?! Unbelievable.

  • 19. thatwoman  |  November 17, 2010 at 1:38 pm

    I think that the SE corner stone which it seems contained the time capsule was “covered” over during a later construction so wasn’t visible -and there by hangs the tale …. again it is a case of Lorain not documenting their past and it was covered over a certain Charleston Pioneer Cemetery comes to mind and how many other parts of Lorains past are lying in a landfill or covered over……and even some that are historically significant are being ignored …… SIGH

  • 20. Mark  |  November 18, 2010 at 2:54 am

    Dennis,

    Not even gonna start the political thing here on Loraine’s blog. Suffice it to say, the dems are not big on the cooperative thing, either, apparently (can you say “Health Care bill?)

  • [...] recent “miraculous” find of a time capsule- and OH! YES!!! that is the word some were saying ” it is a miracle” and nobody knew it [...]

  • [...] The Corner Stone Caper and the wordsmithying that entailed . (That really became for me a bit of joke). I listened and read for nearly 5 days to the he said/she said/ they said this was the case until I finally got cheesed off and browned off enough to ask for “definite” clarification ! [...]

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