Lorain City Schools and the City- finally friendly?

June 13, 2012 at 1:29 pm 16 comments

After all the hand bags at dawn scenario played out between The City of Lorain and Lorain City schools in the past few days:

What the paper said:

Dr. Branham has an Op Ed in the Morning Journal which is explains the “how did this happen” aspect

DR. ED BRANHAM: Lorain school chief responds; ‘Keep politics, personal agendas out of schools, school decisions’
http://www.morningjournal.com/articles/2012/06/13/opinion/doc4fd8084426691290559616.txt

I met with the Mayor on June 4, 2012, to discuss how the city and the schools could work together on the type, amount and cost to the taxpayers for the November school levy. This meeting was necessary because Mayor Ritenauer communicated to the Board that he would actively work against any income tax levy for the district. I was unaware at that time of any new high school site plans or donations of any property. Mr. Giardini, acting independently of the school district and the Board of Education, presented the possible land donation to the city and/or schools for a possible new high school/shared site. I did not approach Mayor Ritenauer with this proposal


ED Note: That statement by Mr. Branham may explain a lot- communication seemingly lacking and also since Mr. Giardini apparently was acting “independently” perhaps it wasn’t clear to the City of Lorain that he was not acting as the Lorain City School’s attorney and thereby not representing the schools.

You can see where the confusion may have started. Communication and going through a “chain of command” or proper procedures/protocol and less “multi- tasking ” is imperative . In my opinion presenting the “idea” re: the high school movement to the Lorain City Schools as an entirety first and foremost and not at a levy meeting- could have stopped a lot of the rhetoric of the past few days.

Also, in my considered opinion, Mr. Williams as BOE President needed to have taken a “clear stance” and suggested the idea be presented at a different time and not further muddied the waters by requesting the following of the city:

http://thatwoman.wordpress.com/2012/06/12/press-release-from-the-office-of-the-mayor-chase-ritenauer/

After meeting with the schools on June 4th, the City, at the request of the School Board President, composed a letter discussing the potential for collaboration.

Mr. Williams should have been wearing his BOE hat at this point – I don’t believe he was !

Lorain High School deal fades; Mayor Ritenauer backs off, Branham objects to ‘politics’
http://www.morningjournal.com/articles/2012/06/13/news/mj6347301.txt

And the statement that Ritenauer issued also affirmed his support for Branham. Ritenauer said, “While approaches to management will inevitably have philosophical disagreements every so often, the city looks forward to those conversations and ultimately wants to see the Lorain City Schools be successful and will work with the schools to that end.”

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  • 1. aka/mozart  |  June 13, 2012 at 2:09 pm

    love the video…and tony looks just …mar..va..lous….I hope that Branham is serious into looking to use the law director…tony g…has certainly wore out his welcome…the hat that he should be wearing should be a dunce cap.

  • 2. gramster1  |  June 14, 2012 at 12:00 am

    How much longer is the BOE going to allow Mr. Giardini to pretend to act as spokesperson for the district? This man admittedly is not versed in school law, has embarrassed many in the district many times and continues to put forth his OWN agenda rather than those of the district. It is time for him to move on, move on, move on and leave the schools alone.

  • 3. aka/mozart  |  June 14, 2012 at 10:44 am

    If the BOE does not clearly that gramster, I think we are in for more trouble. WE SHOULD BE USING OUR LAW DIRECTOR THAT IS FREE….AND SAVEing MONEY WHERE WE CAN…AND TIME FOR GIARDINI OUT OF ANY FURther equasions…and no snowballs way in hell as any temporary interim super. Let him do his damage to the democrat party…and let the school heal after the knife he threw into heart of akhs. Enough! …It is clearly pretty easy to see where most board members stand re” TG..the one who concerns me most is Bill. I THINK HE FEARS TONY.. ..maybe too many family members in the shcool system…and feels he owes tony something…i cant say for sure what it is…i like Bill, but I am not sure where his head is at most of the time. all I can say…As was said to me the other day on the phone..”.anything tony touches turns to puss”….strap a pair on boy’s
    and let’s get this ball rolling…

  • 4. Loraine Ritchey  |  June 14, 2012 at 12:13 pm

    I am a “surface dweller” as I have stated many times with the issues of Lorain City Schools- This latest “happening” has not done the system any favors in my opinion and whilst I understand the concepts and the desires and “excitement” I truly believe this was detrimental to credibilty from both the city and schools aspect.

    I don’t believe this should have happened. It seems to me and ( not just with this example) but that the way of doing things in this town has lapsed- people are multi tasking and taking advantage of ” networking” … I believe these situations need to be tightened up.

    We are all aware that so the city goes so go the schoools and so the schools go so goes the city …. they are both in dire straights both ask ing for more money from a majority tax payer base that is not far from the “poverty ” level themselves.

    Kendra on Lorain county dot com makes mention of the to Issues re Taxes

    http://www.loraincounty.com/lorain/discussion.shtml?id=406997&f=11&v=

    “I just happen to have the packet from Council Agenda on January 26, 2009 in front of me. Guess what we were selling then? Issue 10 the renewal of the TAX INCREASE from FEB 2005 that promised to protect our city and maintain our services in 2005 when we lost Ford.

    Here’s what the 2009 packet promised:
    Avoid laying off police officers and firefighters
    CONTINUE TO PROVIDE CLEAN AND SAFE PARKS FOR LORAIN FAMILIES
    Stave off huge cuts in order to maintain current service levels.

    WE PASSED ISSUE 10 BASED ON THESE PROMISES in 2009

    She is right that is what we were told by two different administratons . We also passed the “building levy” for the schools
    and it has turned into a fiasco ( see recent articles) .over builds, buildings lacking, and the dithering of the high school .

    It is a rocky road ( no pun intended ) – I have no answers but creditbilty and trust from the taxpayers point of view is as low as our income level

  • 5. gramster1  |  June 14, 2012 at 1:19 pm

    The one who “scares” me is the Board President, he seems to be on the G-Team more than anyone else. It’s so sad that a former superintendent was able to leave us with so much angst. We as a public, city, school supporters, need to vocalize what we wish the BOE do FOR us and our children. They are supposed to REPRESENT our concerns and wishes, not political agendas. Yes the city and schools are linked as to the success and recovery of our city, but politics should never have been a part of it. If the BOE doesn’t do their job responsibly, then they too need to be removed for those who really have the systems best interests at heart. Let’s move forward, put all the b.s. behind us and work for the common goal, the best educational system we can provide for our students. Schools need to realize that they are in fact a service industry and the clients are our students and they are the ones who suffer when the job is not done correctly.

  • 6. aka/mozart  |  June 14, 2012 at 1:40 pm

    Gramster..i do agree with your comment about ( father )williams…but at least we know where he and( whose your daddy) Dimacchia stand and who they salute to…it is not the citizens…they bow their head and curtsey to ( PapaDom) Giardini.

    The board works for the citizens..not levy committees..not special interest groups…and certainly not Tony G!!! The writing is clearly on the wall…and it has Giar~fetti all over it.

    Loraine, can you put up the letter that tg sent to my house?

  • 7. Loraine Ritchey  |  June 14, 2012 at 2:49 pm

    Denise yes , if that is what you wish- I will contact you about it . Loraine

  • 8. aka/mozart  |  June 15, 2012 at 12:17 am

    yes LORAINE. they took this down from the breaking news on the mj on line….are we tired of this yet? frankly i am exhausted with all this stuff…how suspicious does that meeting look…

    Title: what is going on now? Giardini again?WTH!

    Message: LORAIN — An early morning email was sent to Lorain City School board members informing them of a 5 p.m. meeting before their planned 6:30 p.m. meeting, according to board member Mitch Fallis.
    “This is not a formal board meeting,” Fallis said. He, along with other board members, were notified of a meeting with Interim Superintendent Ed Branham, Treasurer Dale Weber, Board Vice President Bill Sturgil, legal counsel Tony Giardini, and board President Tim Williams.

    Fallis stated that the meeting, which was called by Williams, has no formal agenda that he knows of and he has not gotten an answer as to why the meeting is occuring.

    Board members Fallis, Tony Dimacchia, and Jim Smith were notified of the meeting, but not invited, according to Fallis.

    “I don’t really understand,” Fallis said referencing why the meeting was being held before tonight’s school board meeting.

    Calls placed to other board members were unreturned.

    Check Friday’s Morning Journal for more on this story.

  • 9. aka/mozart  |  June 15, 2012 at 12:21 am

    for the record..when i say yes loraine..it was taken off……i am refering to a phone call from her..not the post on lc.com…i dont know who citizen80 is.

  • 10. Loraine Ritchey  |  June 15, 2012 at 12:42 am

    No problem – I do know who they are…. and they are a fan :) and a friend of my sons you are correct it is gone……..Oh boy!!!!

  • 11. Lisa  |  June 15, 2012 at 9:39 pm

    If you are talking about the story from yesterday that broke the news of the meeting, here’s the link:
    http://www.morningjournal.com/articles/2012/06/14/news/doc4fda363b0472c517505028.txt

  • 12. Loraine Ritchey  |  June 15, 2012 at 10:05 pm

    yeah it got buried but was back today- I have some more info on that story will see how the weekend goes :)

  • [...] First up the City vs the Schools and the meetings that confused and “riff’d ” a relationship. http://thatwoman.wordpress.com/2012/06/13/lorain-city-schools-and-the-city-finally-friendly/ [...]

  • 14. Loraine Ritchey  |  June 19, 2012 at 12:20 pm

    I may not be a math major but even I can see something doesn’t add up- is it any wonder there is confusion.?

    http://www.morningjournal.com/articles/2012/06/13/opinion/doc4fd8084426691290559616.txt

    Superintendent of Schools Branham stated in his Op Ed-
    Mr. Giardini, acting independently of the school district and the Board of Education, presented the possible land donation to the city and/or schools for a possible new high school/shared site. I did not approach Mayor Ritenauer with this proposal

    and yet in yesterday’s Chronicle Telegram

    http://chronicle.northcoastnow.com/2012/06/18/lorain-law-director-we-can%e2%80%99t-work-for-schools/

    Giardini said Lucas is a client, but he was representing the school district when he made the suggestion to Ritenauer.

    Ok we can’t have it both ways – If in fact Mayor Ritenauer believed that Mr. Giardini was representing the LCS it would explain the latter course of action taken by the city .

    However if the Superintendent of Lorain City Schools had no knowledge and most of the BOE were unaware of such a ” plan ” being proposed by their attorney and were “blindsided thinking this was a city of Lorain endeavour – you can see the confusion

    I may be naive here- but wouldn’t there have to be someone in the LCS administration or BOE to direct their legal representation to speak upon their behalf to the City of Lorain- obviously the Mayor felt he was listening to a suggestion from Lorain City Schools .

    So enquiring minds ( mine) want to know WHO on the BOE or Administration authorized the presenting of the “plan” at a levy committee meeting on June the 4th and led to all the confusion, hard feelings and bru haha.

    Stand up and be counted please- a lot of reputations have been tarnished in this ……..

  • 15. Brian  |  June 19, 2012 at 11:21 pm

    Do you really think that that question is ever going to be answered? You could attend a school board meeting and ask the question when the public speaks and all you will get is a bunch of stares from the folks in the chairs.

  • 16. Loraine Ritchey  |  June 19, 2012 at 11:39 pm

    BIG SMILE>>>>> No Brian I bet it won’t what I need is a man and a bucket and face painted blue to scare the stares off their faces….. but seriously it should be answered because they caused a hell of a lot of problems.maybe the question should be asked by someone like the media………

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