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Part One – The Background
Part Two – A History
In 1940 the County Commissioners decided the dome was unsafe and they took it down BUT they were in the midst of a campaign to have the whole building destroyed and replaced by WPA financed building http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Works_Progress_Administration
In fact, those same commissioners tried time and time again to take down the building..
pdf file of the information here
and here courthouse info2
Heman Ely deeded the land to be used for the purpose of a “permanent court house”. A building that cost $200,00 in 1881 which in today’s money is the equivalent of $4,545,454.55
But it seems over the years this grand dame of Elyria has suffered much at the very hands of those who were her supposed caretakers :
In September 2012 the Toledo Blade
carried the call from Commissioner Tom Williams:
“It’s deteriorating. The grounds are in bad condition,” said first-term Lorain County Commissioner Tom Williams. “The building itself has mold in it. It’s just an old building now. I wouldn’t say it’s historic anymore. It’s more of a liability for the county.”
Although two of Lorain County’s three commissioners insist they have no interest in razing the old courthouse, Mr. Williams says something needs to be done to halt the building’s decline, and demolition may be more “cost-effective” than renovation.
ELYRIA — Lorain County Common Pleas Judge James Miraldi told the county commissioners on Wednesday that he was “appalled” by the state of the old Lorain County Courthouse, which houses the county’s Adult Probation Department.
“What I saw over there wouldn’t be appropriate for a probation department in a Third World country,” Miraldi said.
Miraldi said he and other judges toured the building earlier this week and saw black mold, asbestos, a broken elevator and numerous other problems in the more than century-old building.
Common Pleas Judge John Miraldi, who also took the tour, referred to the old Courthouse as “that pit” and said there were serious air quality problems inside.
NOTE all photos sources Lorain County.
Two Miraldis of the same mind apparently. Ah! the minds of men – and the what were they thinking department?.
First the caretakers of law and government abuse her over the decades by lopping off her head so to speak, denigrated her worth and beauty and then over the years tried to further finish her off by abusing her insides so terribly that she is no longer the once beautiful and proud icon of law and order.
She has become institutionalized with sea grass wallpaper , her beautiful tile work ripped up, hardwood floors covered with industrial carpeting an ersatz icon of faded glory not even good enough for the third world!
And some how this is “her fault”. And the taxpayer is paying to sort out the mess ONCE AGAIN !
Moot’ order over courthouse keys now vacated Filed by Brad Dicken
The commissioners met with their newly hired lawyer Monday in executive session to discuss their options and prepare a reply.
Because Burge has rescinded his court order, there won’t be an immediate need for a hearing, Kalo said. The judge potentially could have held the commissioners in contempt of court for refusing to follow his order.
Commissioner Tom Williams said he wants to end the feud as soon as possible so both sides can stop paying their lawyers.
ED NOTE The Judges have Hired Subodh Chandra and the taxpayers have paid out $50,000 retainer fee- expenses of approximately $33,000 so far – is that part of the $50,000 – this taxpayer hasn’t had an answer from Mr. Lubbe
County Prosecutor Dennis Will, who normally represents both the commissioners and the judges, has removed his office from involvement in the dispute.
“I’m hoping we can open up the lines of communication and try to come up with some agreement instead of taking this to court,” Williams said.
PHOTO SOURCE:Elyria In Vintage Postcards – Benjamin J and Anne Fische Mancine - Arcadia Publishing – Amazon Books
TO BE CONTINUED………..
Heman Ely, the founder of Elyria and leading proponent of establishing Lorain County, offered to donate land adjacent to the park he had given to Elyria. In addition, he offered to donate $2000 toward the construction of a permanent courthouse, to build a jail and sheriff’s residence behind the courthouse, and to build a temporary courthouse to use until the permanent structure was completed.
Edmund West signed a Declaration of Trust (Feb. 14th 1823) that when Ohio organized Lorain County he would convey land Heman Ely had given him (back on 22 February 1822) to the Lorain County commissioners. Ebenezer Lane, on another receipt dated 14 February 1823, stated that he was given a deed between Heman Ely and Henry Brown for lots 1-2 and 6-7 to cover a bond to raise $3000 for Lorain County court buildings.
You can find more of the Heman Ely story here :
It was a big thing back in the days of this new country, now forming its own government apart and distanced from England; they knew full well the importance of “law”- “justice”
and “accountability”. This United States was founded upon the rules of law.
If men were angels, no government would be necessary. In framing a government which is to be administered by men over men, the great difficulty lies in this: you must first enable the government to control the governed; and in the next place oblige it to control itself.
James Madison, Federalist Paper No. 51 (1788)
It was important the edifices built for government and the judiciary were of an imposing, solid-and impressive design as they were the icons of the ideals of democracy. This new country and her laws had to be seen as stable and long-lasting. The architecture of the day was the “marketing ” to the population of stability, a government for the people etc. the populace needed reassurance this government of the United States of America would be seen to last and be successful, the bricks and mortar of the new government were a way of reassurance to the population.
1828 The first permanent county courthouse was begun in the public square. It was red brick with a bell cupola and fireplaces in each room. Heman Ely donated land and money for this building
1881- A new County Courthouse was finished and was the largest and most elegant building in Elyria. It was built of local Amherst sandstone.
One can imagine the pride Elyrians must have felt watching this wonderful edifice rising from the ground – majestic , purposeful and making a statement of “law” “democracy” and “success” carved out of a wilderness.
Apparently an architect was hired- Elijah E Meyers
Elijah E. Myers (December 22, 1832, Philadelphia – March 5, 1909, Detroit) was a leading architect of government buildings in the latter half of the 19th century, and the only architect to design the capitol buildings of three U.S. states, the Michigan State Capitol, the Texas State Capitol, and the Colorado State Capitol
The years passed, discussion in 1937 came into play as to the deteriorating metal structures on top of the court house. Therefore , man in their wisdom, decided sometime in 1943 to take off the beautiful dome and with it Lady Justice-
Lady Justice is seen as a blindfolded woman in a toga holding a sword in one hand and a balance (or scales) in the other. She is seen as the epitome of fairness and moral force, and is usually intended as the icon of Judicial Systems. In Roman mythology, she is known as Justitia. In Greek mythology, she’s known as Themis (the goddess of divine order) and her daughter, Dike (who carries scales). In Egyptian mythology, she’s known as Maat, and later, Isis. The Greek goddess Nemesis, as the goddess of vengeance, was the goddess who carried the sword, and the Roman goddess Fortuna (which means “fate”) was the goddess who was blindfolded. As an amalgam of all of these symbols, Lady Justice represents a goddess of divine order who balances fate and vengeance, and collectively represents justice internationally.
It was probably more cost-effective to “remove” than refurbish- Step one in the decline of “reason- perpetuity and pride.
However, in 1975, even without her “top”, Lorain County Court House was deemed still significant enough to be added to the National Historic Register in 1975.
Lady Justice has apparently disappeared from her court house and the court house has been left to a sad fate at the hands of “justices”
to be continued……….
Playing catch up the best coverage of the hand bags at dawn or gavels galore between the tenant ” Lorain County Common Pleas” and the landlord Lorain County Commissioners can be found in the Elyria Chronicle and Brad Dicken by Line
Judges: Put old Lorain County Courthouse on death row
Commissioners, judges engaged in deadlock over building access
Evan Goodenow also filed a story for the Chronicle
Commissioners say plan to move Probation Department too costly
But it was the article by Lisa Roberson of the Chronicle that sent this “that woman” off on her own perspective of the taxpayer who will end up paying the “lawyers for both sides now “
Lorain County judges hire legal counsel in probation department dispute
My take found here on the judiciary jousting of 2014
On July 18th, since things had gone quite quiet I sent an email to Tim Lubbe the “spokesperson for the judges and the probation dept”
for just how much money had been spent by them on Chandra , the attorney He had seemingly done his usual PR in the media opening volley -
Not wanting to take anyone else’s perspective whether it was the judges take or the commissioners take – I decided – since it had gone quiet- to see for myself.
I made arrangements as a “taxpayer” to take the tour. Of course as luck would have it the day scheduled also happened to be the day another ” legal fisticuffs ” took off . By noon that day ( Friday the 25th of July) was the deadline and my appointment was for 11:00 am.
I wondered after reading all the articles of mould , asbestos , strange smells would I need hazmat gear to enter and now the added worry of being caught in the High Noon deadline as an innocent taxpayer.
County commissioners said Thursday they will defy a court order issued by Lorain County Common Pleas Judge James Burge requiring them to turn over the keys to all doors on the second floor of the old Lorain County Courthouse by noon today.
It was therefore with some trepidation I returned to the Elyria Court House, I say returned because 20 years ago I was there on jury duty. ( please note they never asked me back ;)
I sat on the bench watching the foot traffic , the day was one of those sparkling feel good weather days. If I concentrated on the building itself, ignoring the sounds of the traffic, as the church bells rang out the hour I could almost imagine what it must have been like for those who had walked this way in an earlier time. Perhaps, they too had rested under the trees on a summer day when this once beautiful edifice was the pride of a new government and not carrion to be fought over
To be continued
Teddy Roosevelt: “No Room in This Country for Hyphenated Americans”
Address to the Knights of Columbus
New York City- October 12th, 1915
Therefore, not finding a non- hyphenated group upon which to acclimate into the Americanization of Loraine- I chose to use the common denominator of Lorain. I put my focus on Lorain- after all it was going to be HOME- and I would have something in common with others who also chose to make Lorain their home!
We had purchased our “starter” home( in which we still reside) in an old neighborhood; one unfortunately that was in decline. We saw the house in the dark, my husband fell in love it with it and made the offer before I had even seen the basement!
I drove to the house the next morning , I still liked the house but soon realized this was not “upmarket” and the neighborhood was having issues. But then I thought:
well this is America and I don’t know too much about American neighborhoods and post codes ( zip codes)
and there by started the journey of “finding out about Lorain” a mock English Tudor and me.
I soon realized just like the lack of theatre locally , there was a drought of information that could be found about Lorain- there was not at that time a formal Lorain Historical Society , no computers, the library evidenced the most information and yet I knew just by walking around this old neighborhood, the architecture, the layout of the streets, the hodgepodge of different styles there were stories and history.
It was the theatre and saving one that found me getting my “Lorain” feet wet- the preservation of the Lorain Palace Theatre- with the ladies that lunched-
Barb McGregor , Mary Lou Connone, Ruth Calta Lori Hoke, Barbara McGregor, Corky Bruck, Charlotte Zakowski, Jane Baran, Jane Norton, Lou Kepler, Alice Weston, Phyllis Pfaff, Sally Bobel , Lilly Yuzon, Sally DeLuca , Mirium Schneider , Darlene Brown , Mrs. Robert Bostwick, Mrs. Dave Herzer , Carol Kramer, Frances Cellozzi, Marie Bonaminiooand so many others including Sandy Prudoff ( our first meeting) .
Top row left to right Casey Wolnowski- Loraine Ritchey- John Handyside- Sally Deluca – Dan Deliman – Jean Schaeffer- and I have forgotten- anyone know?
Jean Schaeffer took me under her wing – I met her at the Chef Henri Dinner Theatre and she decided I needed to be involved in Lorain and you just couldn’t say no to Jean . I have been involved in Lorain ever since.
I have made a nuisance of myself to all of the administrations. I started by storming into Mayor Zahorec”s administration ( 9 months pregnant) when Elio Jacabozzi declared no city worker or their families could attend City Council meetings . Incensed when I read the notification given to my husband I ranted on to Mayor Zahorec ( in my best British at the time) about freedom of speech , American Democracy etc. the policy was changed.
You see, my husband now worked for the City of Lorain ( Communications) and I was at a meeting speaking against the ore piles- that didn’t go down to well- fresh perspective of ( you don’t put great heaps of ore to mar a beautiful harbor and river) but they didn’t listen and acquired those ore piles; it took decades to get rid of them. I continued to try my best for Lorain no matter the Mayor, no matter the cause- just to bring to do what I could for my “home”.
Under Mayor Krasienko I was given the “Key to the City in 2010
Lorain is still hyphenated , now sometimes into the halves and quarters. I have been battered and bruised ,called names as I continued the journey trying my best to preserve, promote and support Lorain. Lorain’s earliest green space and the saving thereof caused such angst.
A church and priest Father Dan Divis who are not thought of with any fondness after their enabling of pain to this family.
I have tried to be an American non hyphenated by being a Lorainite, to assimilate, to do what the people who settled this community did to put Lorain ahead of hyphenation.
The older I get (life circumstances and hyphenated people) have found me changed since 2009 . I find myself drifting back into wanting my culture around me – those that think, understand and relate without explanation how I “work”, to be around MY cultural and religious heritage . Only here I am totally outnumbered , those are few and far between.
When my son was dying, that dreadful, dreadful day – I was surrounded by the grating voices and the “our way ” bullying of the Italian – Polish- German- Hispanic Roman Catholic- American controllers Vyka, Lombardi, Gonzales, Gott, Zaworksi-
Your name was RITCHEY , NOT – Lombardi , Vyka , Gonzales, Gott or Zaworski . You were taken to their faith and their closure, denying your family even the “time of your interment in their selfishness.”
As someone said
“it is like Chris’ family didn’t exist”
I desperately reached for my cell phone in those minutes after being told my son was probably brain-dead, whilst Lombardis sat there dry-eyed, stone faced , without a tear – worrying I wouldn’t pull the plug- messing further with their already laid our plans. I left the room to call a cousin as I was surrounded by “self” – ishness, inhumanity and without depth of human feeling as a mother and father lost their son, a sister lost her brother. I thought I would totally melt down if I didn’t hear an English voice- he was a life line in that instant.
With what happened to this family – the might of one hyphenated group trampling all over the culture and religion of another has not sat at all well with me , as longtime readers of this blog can attest. It does not fade but then another English trait long memories for injustice and tenacity.
Our wishes and our beliefs, culture overridden by the “hyphen-aters”. I watched as the “spoils” from a fundraiser were distributed with cloak and dagger secrecy by the mother Sue, of the clan Lombardi, and her banker husband Tim and sisters Zaworski and Gonzales. Nothing done that was technically illegal but in my opinion I found what happened to that money morally reprehensible.It was so against any upbringing I had experienced. Again, this left a bad taste in my mouth morality missing, but not apparently to those of the various “family culture”.
The bad taste in my mouth lingers.
I am still at sea – my caring of Lorain has diminished too – if I could run away I would – but wherever I went in the world I would take my untenable pain of loss with me.
There is no place that would ease and I have so much here to love ( those of my own) and they are now my place of respite and love. THEY ARE MY HOME OF MY HEART-THEY ARE THE ONES WHO “KNOW’ AND UNDERSTAND WITHOUT NEED OF EXPLANATION- THEY ARE MY CREED AND CULTURE NOW- AND IT IS FOR THEM I EXIST.The small group of “true” friends that “know” our pain without being told.
I now let others advocate for Lorain . I SOMETIMES WRITE BUT WITHOUT THE PASSION OF CARING IF THE OUTCOME IS FAVOURABLE TO MY THOUGHTS – IT IS WHAT IT IS-
I will keep my commitment to those projects started and to protect them as I wrap myself up in this little old neighborhood Charleston Village - that is who I am my culture of following through against all odds.
BUT – I WON’T take on anything else – I no longer get to get emotionally involved in Lorain – it is time to find a peace where I can . a hyphenated culture AND PEOPLE totally at odds with my own has won out leaving a bad taste for those cultures and religion who have cased such pain – I TOO, AM NOW HYPHENATED
Me and the Kinks lost to history !
Kinks – The Village Green Preservation Society
We are the Village Green Preservation Society.
God save Donald Duck, vaudeville and variety.
We are the Desperate Dan Appreciation Society.
God save strawberry jam and all the different varieties.
Preserving the old ways from being abused.
Protecting the new ways, for me and for you.
What more can we do?
We are the Draught Beer Preservation Society.
God save Mrs. Mopp
and good old Mother Riley.
We are the Custard Pie Appreciation Consortium.
God save the George Cross, and all those who were awarded them.
We are the Sherlock Holmes English-speaking Vernacular.
God save Fu Manchu, Moriarty and Dracula.
We are the Office Block Persecution Affinity.
God save little shops, china cups, and virginity.
We are the Skyscraper Condemnation Affiliates.
God save Tudor houses, antique tables, and billiards.
Preserving the old ways from being abused.
Protecting the new ways, for me and for you.
What more can we do?
We are the Village Green Preservation Society.
God save Donald Duck, vaudeville and variety.
We are the Desperate Dan Appreciation Society.
God save strawberry jam and all the different varieties.
God save the village green!
It was very lonely here in Lorain, although I did meet friends through the Canadian Legion, one especially has been my friend for 40 years and has put up with me and supported me even in those early days. I have met some wonderful “hyphenated- American Lorainites and some who are the very dregs of their respective hyphenated culture .
So here I was at a loss – when I realized I did share something in common with Lorain- THE NAME -MY NAME (which was also spelled incorrectly Loraine as opposed to Lorraine, both named after the area in France.)
My focus then became Lorain and for decades I tried to promote Lorain ( my new home – the home and birthplace of my children) whilst trying to keep what was the best of being English and or British.
Mr Cameron recently pronounced the values of the British when dealing with the Trojan Horse Scandal and the 800 anniversary of the Magna Carta ( upon which the US Constitution is based) http://edsitement.neh.gov/lesson-plan/magna-carta-cornerstone-us-constitution
Mr Cameron, British Prime Minister said “British values” included: “A belief in freedom, tolerance of others, accepting personal and social responsibility, respecting and upholding the rule of law.”
Unfortunately, England is now having to deal with a diversified culture and “hyphenation ” as to different values and the taking over of England by “immigrants” who have stamped their culture full square on their “new home country” – Very few have followed the creed “the when in Rome” and to assimilate into a very British way of life and using the “free to be me and let it be” values of England.
The Trojan Horse Scandal
Operation Trojan Horse was an organized attempt by Islamists to co-opt schools in England and run them according to their beliefs and ideals. The name, based on the Ancient Greek legend, came from a leaked letter of questionable authenticity discovered in March 2014, alleged to be from Islamists in Birmingham, detailing how to wrest control of a school and speculating about expanding the scheme to other cities. Around a month later, Birmingham City Council said that it had received “hundreds” of allegations of school takeover plots, similar to those illustrated in the letter, some dating back over 20 years. Tahir Alam, the chairman of the Park View Educational Trust which runs six schools in Birmingham, was found to have written a 72-page document for the Muslim Council of Britain in 2007 detailing a blueprint for the “Islamisation” of secular state schools.
The alleged Islamic extremism seen in the ‘Trojan Horse’ scandal in schools in Birmingham is the same as that practised by Boko Haram, the Nigerian terrorist network,
Tony Blair has said.
The Trojan Horse ‘plot’ to bring hardline practices into Birmingham classrooms is part of a global extremist movement stretching from Britain to Africa to the Far East, the former Prime Minister claimed.
Six Birmingham schools are in special measures after the education watchdog found they had fallen into the hands of bullying governors who had sought to narrow the curriculum and exclude non-Muslim pupils.
Look in the classrooms of the new “free” state-funded primary schools, for example, and you will find a higher proportion of pupils come from an Asian background (35%) than a white British heritage (32%)……………
Reading the EFA review, it appears almost that the Muslim ethos of a school is evidence of “extremism”. The loudspeakers which broadcast the call to prayer, the fact that 80% of girls were wearing white headscarves, the school fundraiser for Syria – even though these were not necessarily a cause for concern in themselves, they were listed under a heading that suggested the Park View Trust schools were not doing enough to promote community cohesion.
It is vital that we make this distinction between religion on the one hand, and political ideology on the other. Time and again, people equate the two,”
Worrying to the British government is the number of ” British Muslims” who are now becoming “home grown terrorists”
A lethal new class of British jihadi: Second fanatic in ISIS recruitment video went to same Cardiff college as the first and once dreamed of becoming prime minister. Now he says: ‘Muslims who don’t join us will die a painful death’
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2664668/A-lethal-new-class-British-jihadi-Second-fanatic-ISIS-recruitment-video-went-Cardiff-school-dreamed-prime-minister-Now-says-Muslims-dont-join-die-painful-death.html#ixzz35fm4ZgZy
TO BE CONTINUED…..
Back to the series of an immigrant trying to immerse herself in America and the “American” way of life in Lorain, Ohio
after I was so rudely interrupted by “topical news” of Judges, taxpayers http://thatwoman.wordpress.com/2014/06/19/lorain-county-judges-crowing-with-chandra/
and Point of Sale, Lorain.
Lorain – How did I end up here? The bus broke down as mentioned in part two.
My young husband never one ( at that time) to let the grass grow under his feet whilst waiting for a replacement bus looked up electronic establishments, called one , got an immediate interview and thus we became Lorainites.
And I tried, so help me I tried, to immerse myself as my father had suggested into the American Way of life and style. However, that was more difficult than he ever imagined it would be . You see I came into a hyphenated community .
Apparently in Lorain you were Italian- American, Afro -American, Native-American- Irish -American , Polish American, Dutch- American, Scottish – American, Hungarian- American, German- American , French -American, Croation- American, well you get the picture! Lorain, celebrates her hyphenated diversity with a large “ethnic festival” attended by thousands. Lorain will be celebrating this week the Polish Community
Rarely does Lorain celebrate being American, Oh! Veterans Day, Memorial Day , they come together as Americans after disaster strikes- our fighting men and woman are classified as American – no hyphenation then and this week during the USA world Cup we are the “Americans” . But the diversity of the team is discussed by the USA ” newscasters, “he is part Cherokee” .
You can see my dilemma, as when I took my
American citizenship test (that is correct you are tested, at least you were)I was specifically told by the Department of Immigration and Naturalization
“there is no such thing as a “hyphenated American” you are now a citizen of the United Sates of America !
, how could I become solely American as required by my father and the US government when the Americans in the community were hyphenated? What exactly does it mean to be
Which group should I go with , the Italians, the French, the Irish, the Germans, errrr no that would have been too much to ask of an ex pat Englishman/woman. Funnily enough I didn’t find any hyphenated “English- Americans” or British -Americans.
I suppose a little war in 1776 didn’t make being “British” too popular- maybe we “English” felt more comfortable being low-key and becoming non- hyphenated Americans . All I know is I couldn’t find any hyphenated “English – American” closest was the Canadian Legion but they were mainly, Irish Welsh and Scottish at the time. I was at sea.
I have never been one for organized religion but in strange country and city where every one was hyphenated I looked for a familiar church- I was Church of England – or an Anglican – in fact I was brought up as Low Church on my mother’s side .
Low church is a term of distinction in the Church of England or other Anglican churches initially designed to be pejorative (derogatory). During the series of doctrinal and ecclesiastic challenges to the established church in the 17th century, commentators and others—who favoured the theology, worship, and hierarchical structure of Anglicanism (such as the episcopate) as the true form of Christianity— began referring to that outlook (and the related practices) as ‘high church’. In contrast, by the early 18th century those theologians and politicians who sought more reform in the English church and a greater liberalisation of church structure were called “low church”. “Low church”, in an Anglican context, denotes the church’s simplicity or Protestant emphasis, and “high church” denotes an emphasis on ritual or Anglo-Catholicism.
For the life of me I couldn’t find even a “C of E” anywhere. The someone suggested that I need to look into the Episcopal Church of the Redeemer -Episcopal what ever was that? http://danielebrady.blogspot.com/2011/06/church-of-redeemer-then-and-now.html
I had heard of Lutheran, Methodist, Presbyterian etc. in my native land but Episcopal, no can’t say I ever heard of it. But there was probably a reason for that
Episcopal Church- USA
The church was organized after the American Revolution, when it separated from the Church of England whose clergy are required to swear allegiance to the British monarch as Supreme Governor of the Church of England, and became the first Anglican Province outside the British Isles
So here was I – without a non hyphenated culture in which to immerse myself, and even a church that was “missing”. What was a young immigrant to do ?
to be continued
Living in this , Lorain’s oldest neighborhood, I have watched the deterioration as bank dumped foreclosures were passed around and on and on until as perfectly reasonable homes that were built with pride are left abandoned to their fate.
No longer, are they the homes they once were in this neighborhood but now a commodity , to be used and abused until they are no longer worth anything.
Some of our home-grown banks are the biggest culprits
AHHHHH!!!!, yes! that house- the Wurmser House – the house of mystery , the house on the “historical inventory register” . You can read all about the “history mystery” of that house here
Let us look at what happened after the tornado- when Wurmser
Henry Oswald Wurmser was a respected architect in Lorain and renowned throughout the state. He was responsible for designing many churches, businesses and residences.
and gained another -the current featured front page news and “poster child ” for the realtors, banks and landlords……
You see this house , like so many others passed from “pride of home to Mr. Wurmser” ( the probably date for this house is after 1924) and his family , a sale or two ( without Point of Sale of course ) a couple of foreclosures more purchasers who lost until what we have now !
from the MJ article
It appeared the home at 1348 W. Erie Ave. could have an escrow amount that is more than the house is worth.
The home is owned by the Federal National Mortgage Association, commonly known as Fannie Mae.
Oh dear Fannie Mae- well Fannie and her buddy Freddy have caused a lot of “bad happenings with the 2008 sub prime mortgages (MORT old English for “death”) and we can certainly GAGE that with Fannie and the banks.
In the years before the crisis, the behavior of lenders changed dramatically. Lenders offered more and more loans to higher-risk borrowers, including undocumented immigrants. Lending standards deteriorated particularly between 2004 and 2007, as the government-sponsored enterprise (GSE) mortgage market share (i.e. the share of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, which specialized in conventional, conforming, non-subprime mortgages) declined and private securitizers share grew, rising to more than half of mortgage securitizations.
And another one bites the dust in Lorain and you can see the drooling of the realtors to find the “bone of contention” as proof point of sale isn’t working –
NOTE: I would like to point out the homes in the article have been empty and for sale for a few years BEFORE the January 1st Point of Sale Lorain came into being- couldn’t sell them then either could you?
“It’s not wonderful in any sense of the imagination,” Myers said. “We have properties we can just not sell now. Everybody just walks away because nobody wants to put that kind of money in a house in Lorain.”
IN LORAIN – or just in Lorain’s oldest neighborhoods????
You see Point of Sale “isn’t about this Lorain’s oldest neighborhood or even Ward two and the areas that have deteriorated from homes that held families once upon a time and now hold vagrants, vermin and are the shopping places for copper!
THE POINT of point of sale is to stop in the rest of Lorain, that hasn’t experienced yet the bank dumps and slip shod workmanship as these house are passed around between property pimps from happening in Lorain’s other neighborhoods .
The rot has to stop somewhere - painful as it is and then just maybe the tale of 3620 Clinton won’t be coming to your ward!
Lisa wrote about 3620 Clifton January 13th of 2013
In that article, it was mentioned that the owners of one of the houses on the demolition list were given a second chance to make repairs. Even though it was noted by Demolition Board member, 5th ward Councilman, and neighborhood resident Eddie Edwards that “Before the sale, the house sat empty for about five years, with its doors and windows open and generally falling apart…” and “The new owners also waited a year before taking action to repair it…” AND the Board went out to see this house for themselves AND took the Fire Chief with them AND talked to the unhappy neighbors – the owners have $17,000 and a plan and that was enough for the Board to grant them a second chance.
“According to this article, “…owners of 3620 Clifton Ave. will get another five weeks to make repairs to that South Lorain home. For a second week, the condition of the structure sparked the most discussion in the demolition appeals board meeting.”
Demolition Board of Appeals meetings are held during the week and are impossible for me to attend. At the meeting held February 28, 2013, the owners were given another month to continue their work on the property. They were granted this extra time because they had roofed and secured the house, plus cleaned up the yard. [
So here we are ONE YEAR and Three Months later and the flip is apparently a flop…..(
No point of sale when this property was purchased….. the house is still “curvy “, “sagging” and not so cute , no electricity and obviously no tenants except of the groundhogs.
POS is not to make these old neighborhoods better it basically is to stop Lorain’s newer neighborhoods from deteriorating as we have done.
Let us look at the history of the other houses mentioned in the article from the POS Morning Journal
• 1502 New Mexico Ave. has an escrow amount of $40,500; the auditor’s office valuation of the house is $36,000.
There we have it out of the 4 highest escrow accounts 2 are owned by the “mortgage holders” ( which brings to mind poor business practices of the sub prime) and one non-profit agency.
As they say the rest of the story!!!!!
ATTENTION! Fellow taxpayer, you who are busy trying to earn a few sheckles in this rust belt of an economy , you who did your civic duty and voted in Judges and Commissioners and trusted them to “do due diligence” to the task appointed by your vote. We are seeing our hard-earned money spent on “attorneys” because the Judicial System and the ( County) Executive Branch cannot communicate.
The Court of Common Pleas, the only trial court created by the Ohio Constitution, is established by Article IV, Section 1, of the Constitution, and its duties are outlined in Article IV, Section 4.
Missing: mission statement
with the Administrative ( Executive Branch) Lorain County Board of Commissioners ( whose mission statement also couldn’t be found as it kept coming up “error”.)
Not a good sign fellow taxpayers… Mission Impossible...
So let us see how this works- we are of course seeing our money go out of the county to Cuyahoga and to Subodh Chandra- Chandra has benefitted from the Lorain City and Lorain County squabbles big time-
We ,the taxpayers, have poured money into his pockets. The Commissioners helped Mark Stewart to get the situation out of common sense and into to Chandra CENTS.
But hey! Chandra persevered and finally The city of Lorain caved. Of course the poor old city taxpayers were hamstrung you see our Cuyahoga attorney Anthony Calabrese was involved in another aspect of the judicial system.
Calabrese’s former law firm, Vorys, Sater, Seymour and Pease agreed to pay a $3 million settlement to the city of Lorain, which had employed Calabrese and the firm during the years of corrupt activity. The Lorain City Council on Monday approved the deal, contained in a 10-page ordinance titled “settlement and mutual release agreement.”
The agreement “will be a great benefit to the city,” the ordinance read, “and the delay of lengthy litigation resolved amicably without delay to the benefit of the city of Lorain.”The $3 million will be made in two equal payments due Dec. 20 and Jan. 10, according to terms of the settlement.
We did get some of our money back with a settlement ( figured out by other attorneys and paying them a fee) so all was not lost – just reputations smeared, spin, hard feelings and confusion still reigns as to the CRA.
But Chandra is on course for the race to who will give in first. His methodology is quite simple -
One he uses his contacts in the Plain Dealer and Cleveland news outlets to tell the tale- http://thatwoman.wordpress.com/2008/03/17/hear-ye-hear-ye-all-rise-the-right-hon-public-opinion-presiding/
The headlines cause shock and awe – he then will use those same slanted until they tip over ” news” stories as part of his arguments in court.
That is what he does, and it has started - in fact the TAXPAYER is taken to task in the first volley found here:
Lorain County’s worst public building is no place for probation officers: “Hey, Taxpayer!” with Mark Naymik
I was unable to access parts of the building documented by a photographer hired by Chandra.
and to further add insult to injury
It’s hard to believe spending a quarter of million dollars will produce a cost-effective, long-term solution in a building that needs so much. Taxpayers deserve a better option.
errr excuse me Mark – we, the taxpayer, aren’t given any options – we just cough up the money and choke…… and according to Channel 3 we, the taxpayer, keep a filthy house, errrrrr last time I looked we paid for maintenance and janitors- what happened??? But great spin Chandra we got our monies worth on that one!
The county house of filth
“Because the county too- seemingly only keep records of monies paid to Chandra and Co- not the driving to and from meetings ( although Chandra does – he counts it in his invoices to us -the taxpayer- ( through the real estate account in the County coffers- He counts his hours and what it costs for him and what it cost for his assistant.) but apparently county government doesn’t. So I guess to get a true accounting of what it is costing I should ask Chandra he may have a better idea”
Now fellow combatants, since we will be paying for Cha- Ching Chandra and the opposing counsel, one would only hope the Commissioners find an attorney ( not of the character of Calabrese)
http://amlawdaily.typepad.com/amlawdaily/2011/09/arntsen-calabrese.html who can take on Chandra.
OH! OH! WHAT AM I THINKING- WE ARE PAYING FOR HIM/HER TOO!
Therefore , if that law firm is any good this could go well past a million dollar mark, wonder if they have media contacts they can use. Maybe the taxpayer could sell tickets to this Comedy of Errors and recoup some of the money spent by our “employees“.
So , the upshot is no matter how this turns out – we the taxpayer lose and the only thing we can do is remember how much those that started the Chandra Ball rolling as they fired the first “legal” salvo and spent the first dime of our money – at election time -
THEY SPENT NOT WISELY BUT TOO WELL!!!!!!
NOTE: And whilst I am telling it to the Judge- Please judges – try to refrain from those probation sentences , help ease the workload for the probation department and maybe I wouldn’t have 82 in my neighborhood and 270 in the county!