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General(ly) Gillmore- Lorain- Part 4

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Part One http://thatwoman.wordpress.com/2014/09/05/general-quincy-a-gillmore-the-dining-room-dilemna/

Part Twohttp://thatwoman.wordpress.com/2014/09/08/general-ly-gillmore-lorain-the-early-years/

Part Three
http://thatwoman.wordpress.com/2014/09/13/generally-gillmore-lorain-the-early-years-pt-3/

Bann Valley
The Gillmores came over the ocean 1718 ( see part three )as part of the Scotch- Irish migration in 1718 NOTE: this should not be confused with the potato famine migration. The founder of our own Lorain Gilmores, ROBERT(b- 1670), was from Coleraine, Londonderry County , Ulster, Ireland the history of these Scotch- Irish is fascinating and can be found on line here

https://archive.org/details/scotchirish00boltrich

Scotch Irish Pioneers in Ulster and America by Charles Knowles Bolton 1910
coleraine

An ocean voyage was not to be taken lightly in those times it was a horrendous undertaking- also having to prove you would not be a burden on the community in this case BOSTON – You had to be self supporting back in 1718.
BostonShips1620

http://www.doak.ws/the_voyage_to_america.htm

“When the migrations from Ireland started in 1714, vessels of all kinds were pressed into service for carrying passengers. Often times, 300 people were packed into a ship and assigned tiny cots lined up side by side to make maximum use of space. Extra floors were often installed so that more cots and hammocks could be setup to handle more people. The head room that resulted was barely enough to allow one to creep in a stooped position to an assigned cot. Men, women and children were all crammed together. Exercise room was very limited. Food was eaten “in place” with no dining rooms available. Food after the first week was moldy and sour. Water became foul and undrinkable. Disease was all too often present with disastrous results. Death at sea was a common occurrence – as was child-birth.

People dying at sea where just thrown overboard because there was no way to preserve bodies long enough to reach shore. One considering a sea journey had to look beyond just the comfort aspects of the trip – there was a very real chance that one would not arrive at all. Storms were an all too often occurrence as there was no way to predict the weather. Ships were often blown off course to arrive weeks late and to be forced into ports far from their original destination. Pirates were very common, operating without hindrance off the American coast during the first half of the 1700’s.”

The Gilmores( Gillmores) ended up in Nutfield / Londonderry, New Hampshire http://www.londonderryhistory.org/townhist and acquired land – Robert some 70 acres and his son William (b 1686) apparently two shares- and a 50 acre farm, he was also appointed as one of the surveyors of highways- he had by 1753 amassed a princely worth of 2,299.10 LSD (pounds) about 200,000 dollars in today’s money.

James Gilmore(b-1728) ( son of William) left New Hampshire in about 1768 and ended up in Massachusetts, There is some confusion as to place names and where was what due to annexation and name changes . However it seems James’son Edmund (b-1763) exchanged the farm of 200 acres for the 1000 acres in what is now Lorain, Ohio .

the land

As I drove to my daughter’s the other day, entering West Erie Avenue from Washington Ave and Veterans Park , past the homes, along the shore, past Lakeview Park, past the Elyria Water Plant, I thought of Peggy’s family, Edmund and his son Quartus Gillmore, who had “owned all of this land “ just 200 years ago. How they had built that first cabin in what would have been totally virgin forest.

Imagine the darkness, no light coming from any sort of street lamps, no road just a cart track, huge trees – their leaves blocking the only light- that of the moon. Night time would find them in total darkness, an inky blackness with only the crashing waves on the shore for company. Their meager light from the fire candles and oil lanterns . In summer the stifling heat that can come with humidity draining the life from one. They must have blessed the breeze from Lake Erie as they toiled in summer heat. The women having to keep the cook fires alight in such a climate.

As the autumn nights closed in and winter winds howled, no snow plows, struggling through Ohio snows to feed the stock, bring in feed and water.
clearing land
Quartus (b 1790), Edmund’s son – 22 years old or so taking what implements they had carried with them to “clear the land and build a cabin” where the Easter Basket now stands. You have to wonder why that particular spot to build their first cabin. My thinking is it was probably in the middle of the tract of land they owned the 1,000 acres hugging the lake shore from what is now Washington Ave to nearly the underpass ( according to Peggy).

They built close to the lake and beach but protected from the lake’s wrath and waves by the drop off to the lake and beach. The lake and harbor was and still is a means of transportation so it made sense, to me at least. And, there is that old story ( every time there is flooding in Lorain) as to the streams and small rivers that are in this community (now filled in). I know there is one by my house

1880 Map  showing stream

1880 Map showing stream

There was supposedly, and I have seen it on an old topographical map, of yet another stream apparently running out of the ground by the now tennis courts on North Lakeview Park and down to the lake. It would make sense to build near a water source as taking the trek to the lake before any wells were dug would have been difficult, having a flowing stream or brook nearby would have been a bonus and also likely place to build.

Of course, this family were not unused to hardships , apart from the traveling across the Atlantic in appalling conditions, they had, by my research, cleared , farmed and prospered in the wilderness for 90 ninety years Gr. Grandfather, Grandfather, Father and son alike . They had various talents, they would know about the weaving and manufacturing of cloth ( the fulling mill Londonderry) – the family were heavily involved in fishing back in Ireland ( as was most of the community who ended up in Nutfieled) and what was needed to eke out a community and be self sufficient. William, a wheelright, also a surveyor, they were farmers, had family experience with not only starting a community from nothing but wilderness and could survey land and roadway and it seems not unused to “starting a community” within the laws of this fledgling nation /.

And they did so here in Lorain.

It is written that Edmund ( the elder) father of Quartus( b-1790) was said to be about 6 foot tall . stocky build high prominent cheekbones. deep set eyes, thick head of hair large mouth , high upper lip – No beard on the upper lip but a beard on the lower jaw . He apparently passed his days here in what is now Lorain in cultivation of his land and is recorded in 1844 as owning land both in Amherst and Black River . Edmund died in 1846 but he lived to see this settlement become a town plat in 1834

artwork Chris Ritchey

artwork Chris Ritchey

To Be Continued ……….

September 17, 2014 at 1:17 pm Leave a comment

General(ly) Gillmore – Lorain the early years- Pt. 3

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Part One http://thatwoman.wordpress.com/2014/09/05/general-quincy-a-gillmore-the-dining-room-dilemna/

Part Two http://thatwoman.wordpress.com/2014/09/08/general-ly-gillmore-lorain-the-early-years/

As I research further and further with old maps etc. I realized just how much the Gillmores owned in this settlement – 1,000 acres was huge . The family cleared land whilst keeping a wary eye out for the Indians and the British. They cut their paths through from their “homesteads, cabins, dwellings” through the forests to trade at a trading post on the other side of the river or to the little community growing up next to the port.
monument-by-river

http://danielebrady.blogspot.com/2012/08/that-lorain-monument-by-river.html

How terribly hard this must have been even on good weather days. I cannot begin to imagine how hard the life was for those that came after the Revolutionary War leaving what amounted to the “civilized society of those times” to eke out a whole new beginning but this family was no stranger to new beginnings. .
According to the “Gillmore Genealogy” written by
Mr. Claude Charles Hamel Amherst Ohio- revised 1954)

The Gillmores (Gilmore) descended from Robert and Mary Ann (Kennedy) Gilmore who came to America August 4th 1718 as part of the Scotch- Irish contingency ( Presbyterians ).

The Scotch-Irish were Presbyterians. They had splintered away from the official English church. In 1688 the ascension of William to the English throne brought relative peace to Ireland. The Scotch-Irish were allowed to practice their religion, but were required to pay the church of England 10% of everything they produced. The land they lived on and worked was only leased to them by the crown – they could be evicted at any time.

https://mikenh.wordpress.com/tag/ulster-scots/

They arrived on the Brigantine ROBERT to the port of Boston- there was an outbreak of smallpox on board and they may have wintered in Boston. http://www.lynx2ulster.com/ScotchIrishPioneers/008.php . They ( the Scotch- Irish) petitioned the New World

Boyd

Source http://www.1718migration.org.uk/siteFiles/resources/pdf/petition.pdf

In the Spring of 1718, a body of Scotch-Irish from Northern Ireland sent a petition, signed by 319 representative men on 26 March 1718(1), to Governor Shute of Massachusetts Bay in the New World requesting land for settlement.

http://wjmontgomeryfamilytree.homestead.com/IrishImmigrationWilliamandMary.html

“We whose names are underwritten, Inhabitants of ye North of Ireland, Doe in our own names, and in the names of many others, our Neighbors, Gentlemen, Ministers, Farmers, and Tradesmen, Commissionate and appoint our trusty and well beloved friend, the Reverend Mr. William Boyd, of Macasky, to His Excellency, the Right Honorable Collonel Samuel Suitte, Governour of New England, and to assure His Excellency of our sincere and hearty Inclination to Transport ourselves to that very excellant and renowned Plantation upon our obtaining from His Excellency suitable incouragement. And further to act and Doe in our Names as his prudence shall direct. Given under our hands this 26th day of March, Anno Dom. 1718.”

sign nutfiled
SOURCE: https://mikenh.wordpress.com/tag/ulster-scots/
Robert arrived in Nutfield ( now Londonderry New Hampshire) – at an early date the eastern half of David Cargill deeded a lot of 70 acres to Robert Gillmore for the site of a fulling mill

Fulling Mill ( cloth)

Fulling Mill ( cloth)

This lot was north of his son’s Williams lot in the same range and near Beaver Pond. His son was one of the original proprietors of Londonderry NH with two shares

Robert had a son William born around 1686 in Ulster Ireland – 1753 Londonderry NH. William in turn had a son

Ruggles Woodbridge

Ruggles Woodbridge


James Gillmore, born in 1728 was the father of Edmund Gillmore Sept 28th 1765 the same Edmund who arrived in 1811/12 in to what is now known as Lorain .
James did serve in the Revolutionary War at the age of 49 he marched with Lieut. Col. Ruggles Woodbridge albeit for 6 days but obviously felt strongly enough to sign up and answer the call:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Woodbridge’s_Regiment_of_Militia

“They came to America, not as discoverers,
but as the pioneers of their race ; they defended the
frontiers against Indians, and their numbers in the
South so much augmented the forces in the Revolu-
tionary army that they may fairly be said to have
saved Washington from defeat.”

https://archive.org/stream/scotchirish00boltrich/scotchirish00boltrich_djvu.txt

Edmund, reached what is now known as Lorain, claimed his land and built a log cabin- after the home was ready he left his son Aretus, in charge and returned to Massachusetts for the rest of his family returning with them by ox team in June of 1812.

The first election for township officers was held in the home of Justice of the Peace John S Reid on April 17th 1817 Edmund was one of the two judges of the Election. Edmund was also elected one of the two Overseers of the Poor . Also the first school was opened in an unoccupied cabin belonging to Edmund Gillmore - Schools were then maintained by private subscription , as the state had no general education until 1825.

The third school : 4th Street
4th street school

During 1853, a two-story frame building was constructed on Fourth Street. This was the only schoolhouse within the limits of the town until 1870 when a four-room, two-story brick building was completed. The cost of this building, which later became a part of the high school, was fifteen thousand dollars. The building site had been purchased for an additional two thousand dollars.

They lived on this farm for the rest of their lives………………..

TO BE CONTINUED….

September 13, 2014 at 4:37 pm 4 comments

General (ly) Gillmore – Lorain – the early years

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General Quincy Adams Gillmore ( latter years)
Part One http://thatwoman.wordpress.com/2014/09/05/general-quincy-a-gillmore-the-dining-room-dilemna/
A great deal has been written about General Adams Quincy Gillmore. He was the son of Quartus Gillmore and Elizabeth (Reid) Gillmore.

probable  photo  of Quartus and Elizabeth Reid Gillmore

probable photo of Quartus and Elizabeth Reid Gillmore

Edited photo of in all probability Quartus and Elizabeth Gillmore courtesy of Matt Weisman

I say ” in probability” because, like most of Lorain’s early history, I have to rely on “calculated guesswork”, word of mouth family history and snippets of information gleaned from biographies and events that may or may not be 100 percent correct. . In fact ,frustratingly enough for me, to do research on the internet the searches bring me back to this blog, for the most part.

When my neighbor , Peggy Gillmore,
http://thatwoman.wordpress.com/2014/04/28/history-mystery-lives-of-lorain-gillmore/ would call to talk she would rattle off the names of her family as if they walked the streets of this neighborhood today . And actually they do walk among us still – our beautiful Lakeview Park the land first cleared in 1811/1812 by the very man pictured above with his wife. Quartus arrived here with his father Edmund Gillmore 1811

quarthis
Source : History of the state during the war, and the lives of her generals
By Whitelaw Reid

As I read the above, I remembered a very old photograph that came with the box of items from Peggy’s. I hadn’t thought much about it at the time as we all went through the assorted items on that April evening. As everyone assembled took items with them to peruse and research the things they found most interesting , I was left with some of the odds and ends. The photograph was one of the odds and ends.

Could this be a later photograph of the ancestral farm mentioned as being 200 acres ( Edmund Gillmore) traded away in order to obtain the 1,000 acres he acquired?

edited photograph of possible Gillmore Farm Massachuset

edited photograph of possible Gillmore Farm Massachuset

The back of the photograph mentions ancestral home Mass

Bearing in mind Lakeview Park today ( Metro Parks)

http://www.metroparks.cc/lakeview_park.php

as we know it today is http://danielebrady.blogspot.com/2014/05/monument-to-mayor-leonard-moore.html just 20 acres and it wasn’t until discussion in 1916-17 led to the purchase of roughly 40 acres

Lake View Park  Mark Teleha

Lake View Park Mark Teleha


Source : http://www.locophotogblog.com/?p=311

The first was to purchase the 19 acres along the lake for $42,500. The second included the land offered in the first proposal and 21.9 acres on the south side of West Erie Avenue for $52,900. Finally, Chamberlain offered all of the 119 acres along West Erie Ave. for $100,000, which Mayor Moore believed would be a “good buy” if the city could get the same price for portions of the property that they would not be able to use. After much discussion and some concern that the property was too far out-of-town for citizens to enjoy, councilmen decided to purchase 19 acres north of West Erie Ave and 21.9 acres south of West Erie Ave for $53,551.38.

Chamberlin Estates the owner of the property offered all 119 acres along West Erie for 100,000- Imagine if you will Edmund Gillmore of 1812 owning 1,000 acres and what that entailed in that original plat of Black River ( Settlement)
and then there was at the other end of the town what is now referred to as Veterans’ Park ( although I can find no official documentation as to the name change ) past 1966 ( Lorain Memorial Park) Veterans” Park History ( 7 parts linked) found here

http://thatwoman.wordpress.com/2013/08/01/veterans-memorial-park-thanks-for-the-memories/

In amongst Peggy’s snippets of information was a cutting circa 1925 calling for information on that self-same park- the original public square .
Gillmore Donation

fast forward to the internet and 1998 and a forum conversation between Diane Wargo Medina ( Charleston Pioneer Cemetery ) and another descendent of the Gillmores- Kathryn Whitaker at that time Ms Whitaker wrote

Here is some information from my great grandmother’s book:
Sophia Gillmore married Daniel Seth Leslie February 8, 1849 at Black River,
Ohio. She was born in Ohio as her mother, Elizabeth Reid (Reed) came with
her father, John Reid to the mouth of Black River, Black River Township, in
1811. They were among the first settlers. Elizabeth married Quartus
Gillmore. The Reeds and Gillmores owned most of Lorain, it has been said.
In fact, the Gillmores and Leslies owned considerable property in Amherst,
Avon Park, Elyria and Lorain. The Eddys and Conleys, relatives of the
Gillmores, had their homeland also in Lorain County. Sophia Gillmore
Leslie deeded Washington Park in downtown Lorain, to the city.

Sophia was the sister of our General Quincy Adams Gillmore
diane marker
And so it goes history in snippets and bits and pieces. I am hesitant to “guess” and conclude- after all this is not my history and I know from Charleston Village Society Board member and historic researcher extraordinaire Diane Wargo Medina - not everything that is always written is correct . So please if in this series there are wrong conclusions or information please feel free to inform me of any corrections! Obviously if you have further information please contact me

To be continued

Thanks to Dan Brady , Jim Smith , Matt Weisman

September 8, 2014 at 6:14 pm 5 comments

General Quincy A Gillmore- the Dining Room Dilemma

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General Quincy Adams Gillmore , hero of the Civil War,

http://www.civilwar.org/education/history/biographies/quincy-gillmore.html

came into my life and my dining room, totally unexpected. He arrived, carried by a descendent, to my front door a few weeks ago. The good General had been offered to the Lorain Historical Society http://lorainhistory.org/ by family members but the historical society declined him and so he is with me.

With him came some other artifacts including a 1914 framed photograph of the graduating class of Lorain High School. Lorain City School Board member Jim Smith collected the photograph and it now proudly hangs at Charleston Center along with a similarly framed photo of the class of 1913. Ironically the photo returned home to Lorain City Schools exactly 100 years after it was first taken.

There was also a roll of some panoramic shots of what looked to be railroad tracks. I was scared to unroll it and gave it to Dennis Lamont who told me it was of the tracks etc for the Terminal Tower Cleveland, another good home and those that appreciate the memorabilia as much as Peggy herself.

Peggy

Since the last living direct descendent of one the founding fathers families the Gillmore’s in Lorain,

Pioneer Edmund Gillmorees
Source: A Standard History of Lorain County, Ohio: An Authentic Narrative …, Volume 2

my neighbor Peggy, passed earlier this year , I have acquired some of the “history” of the Gillmores and this old neighborhood as Peggy had kept them in her lovely home.
403 Oberlin

http://thatwoman.wordpress.com/2014/04/28/history-mystery-lives-of-lorain-gillmore/

Peggy, was so proud of her heritage and what the Gillmore family had managed to contribute, not only to Lorain’s founding history, but to the nation as a whole.

I had promised Peggy I would do what I could to archive her family on the world wide web. I am not sure she understood what that meant exactly but I started with a couple of posts on the the old WoM Blog http://thbarchive.wordpress.com/. Unfortunately the WoM disappeared from the www and therefore with it those posts. However, I did find my files for at least one of those series on the Gillmores and Lakeview Park. The cabin/ farmhouse of the Gillmores stood once where the famous easter basket/ floral basket now sits
FLORAL-BASKET

http://danielebrady.blogspot.com/2010/04/lakeview-park-easter-basket-or-floral.html

PART ONE:
Where History Walks

PART TWO
Where History Walk1

I have looked upon the face of the “older” General for these past weeks pondering his story. I cleaned the beautiful 22″ by 25″ carved wooden frame, gently polished the studding, which is probably pewter or white metal. I have not seen any image on the web that shows the General as he aged. There is some foxing and bleed through from the wooden backing on the paper ( which needs some restoration). Whilst dusting, I noticed, the back part of the original backing remains some writing. I would say the photographic portrait is at least 125 years old. I would probably have to take the back off to see if there is other information but I am not willing to do that – just in case something happens.


…of General Quincy A Gil…. was presented to Perry Chapter DAR …..


and below what is left of the damaged backing a small white square upon which is written –


This picture is the property of Nathan Perry Chapter D.A.R , Lorain presented by Quincy A Gillmore – Elyria O

Digital Camera

This sent me off on a bit of a history mystery hunt.

Obviously, this presented piece given at one time to the Daughters of the American Revolution ( Nathan Perry Chapter) to which Peggy had belonged, founded in 1918 could not have been presented by the pictured General Quincy Adams Gillmore himself . It made no sense as he had died in 1888.

The glass in the portrait is “wavy” something that occurred prior to 1900. I believed the portrait may have belonged to the General’s family – his son was another General Quincy O Maher Gillmore- 1850-1923 but he had the wrong middle initial to be the donor.

General Quincy  O'Maher Gillmore

General Quincy O’Maher Gillmore

Therefore, since the note says presented by Quincy A Gillmore I drew the conclusion this was probably presented by the grandson of the Civil War General and himself another General Quincy A Gillmore1881-1956.

Quincy  A Gillmore  grandson of General Quincy  A Gillmore ( Civil War)

Quincy A Gillmore grandson of General Quincy A Gillmore ( Civil War)

BUT that “ELYRIA” connection worried me so I carried on looking, where I could, on-line. Low an behold, there is “another Quincy A Gillmore” He was the son of Civil War General Quincy Adams Gillmore’s brother Edmund (named after his grandfather one of the founders of this settlement ( owning approximately 1,000 acres). This Edmund married Miss Adelaide E Gillmore daughter of Alanson(also a son of the original Edmund of Lakeview) and Evelyn ( Jones) Gillmore.

Alanson Gillmore

Alanson Gillmore


1805-1895
Adelaide was also the sister of Fanny (Gillmore) Wilford-
fanny gilmore  wilford

wife of Captain Wilford

http://thatwoman.wordpress.com/2008/02/12/capt-wilford-a-hero-of-the-inland-seas/

and the lady of the civil war letters.

http://thatwoman.wordpress.com/2011/04/13/civil-war-letters-fannie-gilmore-lorain/

Edmund and Adelaide’s only child was Quincy “ALANSON” Gillmore , who ended up a prominent attorney in Elyria (Page 728- The History of Lorain County) so I am thinking the presenter of the portrait could be the nephew!

Attorney Quincy  Alanson Gillmore of Elyria

Attorney Quincy Alanson Gillmore of Elyria


1850-1923

I won’t ever know why or how the portrait ended up back with Peggy and her home but it obviously had for these many, many years. The General staring at me these many days started me back on a road I promised Peggy I would travel. As far as the portrait , it certainly doesn’t belong with me , I believe HE needs a permanent home where he will be appreciated, just where that is at the moment is up in the air- suggestions?????

to be continued ……………..

Note : Thanks to Dan Brady http://danielebrady.blogspot.com/ for his help with the Gillmores

September 5, 2014 at 11:59 am 9 comments

The time has come , the walrus said – Lorain

City  of Lorain

For decades, yes decades, I have been a supporter of Lorain. the story here as to how that came about

http://thatwoman.wordpress.com/2014/06/30/kinks-past-hyphenated-lorain-loraine-pt-5/

I spent a great deal of my young days and middle age days being “involved”. I met a great many people, learned a great deal about politics ( enough to realize I wanted “nothing to do with parties or the political arena). Running for City Council etc would have been the next logical step for someone so involved in the neighborhood.

I decided early on as an ‘Independent voter” and an independent thinker I could probably do more than by listening to the bosses of any political group. And since I was not a threat politically, I did manage to have a voice through elected officials either Republican or Democrat. I was an Independent before being an Independent was even popular.

This past week I posted on facebook I was “retiring from Lorain” advocacy and interest. Let me clarify, my neighborhood and the organization of Charleston Village will remain a cause but only as it directly affects them and the projects still underway .

surfacing
During my son’s last months and for many months after he passed I had no desire or ambition to be involved in anything. I “hunkered down” with my grief, emotionally dead except to the world of grief. Apathetic as to Lorain, the world, the state , the politics of the day, the blathering , I remained apart. But then slowly ideas from a few of the CVSI Board members and the finishing up of Settlers’ Watch needed attention and I had the information etc. Slowly I started back into Lorain.

My respite however , saw me looking with new eyes and I have realized I am no longer willing to sit through endless meetings , listening to the same things I have listen to for decades seeing study after study collecting dust.

I realized this city is desperate – desperate to reinvent herself, desperate for anyone outside to take notice, her lake and waterfront touted as the silver bullet , trouble is bullets are meant to maim and kill

LELAres

I sat , last month at a meeting with Lake Erie Landlords Association , invited because I had been outspoken as to their multi property owners , they want to change their image ( good luck with that) But as they are one of the most lucrative businesses in Lorain

For instance according to Ms. Carter of the LMHA

“housing choice vouchers alone pump 1.4 MILLION A MONTH
into Lorain County but The City of Lorain gets 64% of that money EVERY MONTH or approximately $900,000.00 PER MONTH COMES INTO THE CITY OF LORAIN-!!!

How about that BIG Business for you – lucrative one would say and that is just the “private” landlords and LLC’s .

Vouchers Per Zip Code
Amherst 44001 1.1%
Avon 44011 4.0%
Avon Lake 44012 0.6%
Col Station 44028 0.1%
Elyria 44035 23.2%
N Ridgeville 44039 1.1%
Grafton 44044 0.2%
LaGrange 44050 0.3%
Lorain 44052 32.5%
Lorain 44053 10.4%
Lorain 44055 21.3%
Sheffield 44054 1.5%
Oberlin 44074 1.5%
Vermilion 44089 1.3%
Wellington 44090 0.9%
100.0%

Urban LEA

they are listened to by attorneys and politicians. My zip code gets more in funding for housing vouchers than the whole city of Elyria.

http://thatwoman.wordpress.com/2013/09/30/grenade-and-garbage-lorain-landlords-swatted/

I realized it is going to take a more effort and more voices than just a few to change the status quo with that aspect of Lorain and I am not prepared any longer to even try. But I had an epiphany of sorts at that meeting.

Kent Sutton

Kent Sutton


As the age-old question, at all these vision meetings and discussions of Lorain was invariably asked by Kent Sutton

“What do you think is Lorain’s greatest asset”

Of course as always it was –

The lake, the waterfront, the port, Lakeview Park

and as the question got to me -I stopped -to think – in year’s past I would have rattled off an answer but this time as Kent Sutton waited for his answer – none was forthcoming -

the lake, the waterfront and various reincarnations of that “hope” ( spoken for decades) had culminated in the month before in a desperate bid for attention from the “outer world”( the one with expendable income) and found the Lorain Port Authority , City of Lorain, and Lorain consortium and downtown businesses ignoring their own “laws”

obscenityres

in order to allow an event that showcased debauchery, objectification of woman, drunks, breasts, showcasing other parts of the anatomy male and female and vomit – if that is the voice of the majority who am I to say naaaaaaay

( see videos here)

http://thatwoman.wordpress.com/2014/08/10/freedom-of-speech-usa-really-pt-3/

This was done so the City of Lorain and Lorain Port Authority could bring in more of the same and were proud of the fact they had corralled the “party animals” in one place. Lorain’s claim to success we can keep them sectioned so bring forth your beers ( literally) .

However , I said to those gathered Lorain’s asset was her people, although I realized I no longer meant it , just so they would move on to the next person at the table. The next in line said her history – I cringed knowing Lorain’s history was history for the most part.

1880 map
You will find her history in a couple of buildings, such as the Moore House and the New Lorain Historical Society Museum- Carnegie Library ( artifacts, pictures, mementos pieces parts ) The Lorain Lighthouse thankfully still standing .

– you will NOT find her history intact and revered on any of the streets you walk down.

http://thatwoman.wordpress.com/2014/07/22/history-demoed-another-rehabbed-pt3/

I listened to the voices and the same concerns and ideas I have listened to in a surreal realization I had been here before too many times. I realized I no longer believed in this tired desperate city enough to try ……. and she doesn’t need another critic who isn’t prepared to help her…

440px-Briny_Beach Illustration John Tenniel

Excerpt from The Walrus and the Carpenter – Lewis Carroll

The sun was shining on the sea,
Shining with all his might:
He did his very best to make
The billows smooth and bright–
And this was odd, because it was
The middle of the night.

The moon was shining sulkily,
Because she thought the sun
Had got no business to be there
After the day was done–
“It’s very rude of him,” she said,
To come and spoil the fun!”

August 26, 2014 at 1:32 pm 9 comments

Eric Barnes’ Heroes Walk- Lorain County Beautiful

Logo - Chris Ritchey

Logo – Chris Ritchey

ED NOTE: Charleston Village Society

http://www.loraincounty.com/charlestonlorai/

received the notification a few days ago , Eric Barnes’ Heroes Walk, received a nomination for the 2014 Award. Since we were required to send in information about the project and since our “defense” of the property caused such “blathering” recently,

http://thatwoman.wordpress.com/2014/08/13/freedom-of-speech-usa-really-pt-4/

I thought it would be a good time to share our response to the Awards Committee. We may not win but the people who have given so much are most certainly winners already!

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ERIC BARNES’ HEROES WALK – Lorain County Beautiful 2014

A small pathway was originally planned as a way to connect the area known as Settlers’ Watch, 2nd Street and Oberlin Ave. to the area where Charleston Village Society Inc. had recently completed The Admiral King Tribute Site, 1st Street and Hamilton Ave. . The area of brush and trees in between the two sites had become a dumping ground for all manner of trash, garbage and undesirable activities within this Lorain’s oldest neighborhood. It took 25 loads of 5 ton dump trucks to clear what is now the area known as Eric Barnes’ Heroes Walk.
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At the same moment in time as this clearance was happening, Lorain City Council was looking to honor Eric Barnes, who had been killed in action in Iraq. Councilman Dan Given asked if Charleston Village Society (CVSI) could do something in his honor. Since we already had the Eric Barnes Eagle tree carving at Settler’s Watch pathwaSWAK

and the Admiral King Tribute site on the opposite side of the block of land we proposed a linking of the sites honoring two heroes, Eric Barnes and Fleet Admiral Ernest J King. eagle  and AK

What started off as a simple walkway then grew as more information on Lorain’s lost heroes in Iraq and Afghanistan was researched. The walk became a huge project and is being done in three phases. The initial phase laid out the gardens of tribute for all the young men (to date) who were killed in the Iraq and Afghanistan wars, who were also born in Lorain.

As you walk along the pathway, you will see signage depicting the personal information for each hero- a bench where one can sit and enjoy the views of Lake Erie, their own garden space and piece of individualized art work. Each of the heroes’ families were contacted as to what they would like to see the signage , which was designed by volunteers and paid for with donations from the community , as to the verbiage and which spot along the walk they would like for their sons or brothers as well as any favorite plants .
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CVSI raised the money for the signs, plants, art work and expenses encountered through donations to our 501C3 s. The community also donated plants, trees and labor. Two of the benches, are from the now demolished Lorain Admiral King High School. The benches donated by class member were repurposed and were placed in the tribute spaces of the two Lorain City Schools graduates, Marine Lance Corporal David Hall and Army 1st Sgt. Bruce Horner. The other benches for Marine Lance Corporal Ryan Giese and Army Sgt. Louis Torres are also made of recycled material.

CVSI, as with the Settlers’ Watch site which is 95% repurposed and recycled material, including the trees and the mulch and the Admiral King Tribute Site which is also 100% repurposed and recycled ( apart from the flags which fly on the ship’s mast flag pole), has focused on recycling and repurposing for Eric Barnes’ Heroes Walk .

All the lighting is “solar” and the pathway itself is being covered with recycled concrete, when we can acquire it, this also fits the requirement for the Americans with Disabilities recommendations. Phase Two was completed this past spring.

As we continue with Phase Three of the project, the community will find the United States Marine Corps. Monument being placed and a flag pole. The site has been prepared for that aspect of the walk thanks to the City of Lorain who actually own the property. The tree carvings from the tree lawn on 2nd Street will also be re-positioned along the walkway as they are being refurbished and the wood stabilized.

Every day there are volunteers weeding, planting and watering the site. The site is ongoing and growing with something different every day, every week
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We have received in kind donations of lighted bollards, (yet to be placed) more trees and plants as the site grows. 100% of every monetary donation goes toward the site. However it is the labor and in kind donations from the community, as a whole, which make this honor for our heroes even possible.

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Eric Barnes’ Heroes Walk which started as a simple “pathway” has now become a place of tranquility , reflection and beauty , a place honoring Lorain’s young men who gave their all in this most recent of wars. The gardens along the winding path, once a place for dumping trash, are now places of pride within the neighborhood. Every summer evening will find people walking, children playing on the green spaces neighbors enjoying the cooling breezes. There is once again a sense of community, as noted on the 4th of July , as families gathered respectfully to watch the 4th of July fireworks and the freedom they represent- earned at the ultimate price to pay by the young men honored along the walk of heroes . This special place is reminder to all who now enjoy the sights , sounds , the fragrance of blossoms of our freedom every day and a pride has returned in this Lorain’s oldest and much abused over the decades , neighborhood.

August 18, 2014 at 12:28 pm 1 comment

Freedom of Speech – USA- Really??? Pt 4

Who I Am  by  Chris Ritchey

Who I Am by Chris Ritchey

PART ONE
http://thatwoman.wordpress.com/2014/08/05/freedom-of-speech-usa-really/ Would I defend your right to have a differing opinion?

PART TWO

http://thatwoman.wordpress.com/2014/08/08/freedom-of-speech-usa-really-pt-2/

One man’s Cricket

PART THREE

http://thatwoman.wordpress.com/2014/08/10/freedom-of-speech-usa-really-pt-3/

Community Standards

Here we are back to the beginning and the “perception” that one has the right to share an opinion. The right to opine something that doesn’t sit well with a vocal majority- especially here in Lorain it seems. I have been around this block too many times to go on . Who is Watching the Watcher
( circa 2002)
You can read a lot here in back posts. I am not going to chew the cud twice,

http://thatwoman.wordpress.com/2013/10/13/non-quixote-tired-of-tilting-at-windmills/

because NONE OF WHAT I WRITE , ESPECIALLY ON THIS, WILL MAKE ONE BIT OF DIFFERENCE .

cole Ah this blog- it’s very name- THAT WOMAN , the monika given to me by, the now deceased Morning Journal Editor, John Cole. He took issue with me because I disagreed and he front paged “me” home address and all — using his newspaper’s clout when I “dared” come out against the big four - Foltin- Prudoff- Veard – and Cole when they wanted to put “condos” in what is known as Veterans Park- Lorain’s public green space since 1807-

http://thatwoman.wordpress.com/2013/08/02/veterans-memorial-park-fini/

I wonder what would have happened had those condos been built ? More section 8 housing downtown perhaps. Don’t scoff – Section 8 or now under the new more acceptable nicey nice name Housing Choice ( Vouchers) is very, very big business in Lorain and especially in the 44052!

For instance according to Ms. Carter of the LMHA

“housing choice vouchers alone pump 1.4 MILLION A MONTH
into Lorain County but The City of Lorain gets 64% of that money EVERY MONTH or approximately $900,000.00 PER MONTH COMES INTO THE CITY OF LORAIN-!!!

How about that BIG Business for you - lucrative one would say and that is just the “private” landlords and LLC’s .

Vouchers Per Zip Code
Amherst 44001 1.1%
Avon 44011 4.0%
Avon Lake 44012 0.6%
Col Station 44028 0.1%
Elyria 44035 23.2%
N Ridgeville 44039 1.1%
Grafton 44044 0.2%
LaGrange 44050 0.3%
Lorain 44052 32.5%
Lorain 44053 10.4%
Lorain 44055 21.3%
Sheffield 44054 1.5%
Oberlin 44074 1.5%
Vermilion 44089 1.3%
Wellington 44090 0.9%
100.0%

but The City of Lorain gets 64% of that money EVERY MONTH or approximately $900,000.00 PER MONTH COMES INTO THE CITY OF LORAIN-!!!
How about that? BIG Business at work for you – lucrative one would say and that is just the “private” landlords and LLC’s

Money-floating
If you look at the stats for the 44052- those landlords , property owners LLC etc are receiving the MOST of all the zip codes in the county. This 44052 zip code is receiving MORE than the WHOLE CITY OF ELYRIA. By my math 3.5 MILLION a year just from one agency. But at least LMHA have “building codes ” and hopefully enforce them , Of course then there are other rentals!

http://thatwoman.wordpress.com/category/lorain-multi-property-owners/

You remember THIS area is where the Intelligencer ( members of the Downtown Consortium) want to promote , where the standards of the community are set, the seat of City Government , the “BUSINESS District” of Social Service Agencies, the historic district, the waterfront entertainment district, the 44052 the one place the city can expand and develop within its borders.

BUT far be it from me to point out any concerns about housing, the terrible building stock,
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the number of RSO , parolees, the crime stats and wanting those with expendable income be part of the foot traffic. As legitimate, as I believe as those concerns are I would be pilloried as a nay-sayer and fly in the eye of the rose-colored visionaries. Because you see that is what happens ( and I have documented it for years!)
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Back to Rover Fest!!!. I have no problem with a community setting its own standards, even if that bar is set lower than my “personal preference – vocal majority rules.

When Alex Olejko was in office, his administration brought in an ordinance with regard to obscenity. There was a bruhaha at the time, as I recall- I guess people were not so intimidated as to speaking out back then- that was of course before the “screen name only comments” in the media and internet blossomed into being and the 4th estate was supposed to be balanced .
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I wonder is this ordinance still in effect? Was it amended by the electors for the events at Black River Landing as the Lorain Port Authority Board deleted their definition of obscenity for the event? It had to have been because there was all of that and more at the event and the enforcers of the laws were in attendance. – see videos Part three

http://thatwoman.wordpress.com/2014/08/10/freedom-of-speech-usa-really-pt-3/

or Google RoverFest 2014.

If I recall correctly , at the time it was decreed by the legal eagles – obscenity was to be determined by the standards of each individual community - hence the NEW standards – brought to you by local business consortium , the Lorain Port Authority and the City of Lorain. and I certainly didn’t see any of the “religious fraternity” objecting.

Objecting??? AKA the naysayers HUH?? you see even IF anyone had wanted to OBJECT to the event and NAY SAYED they were cleverly not given a chanceThe date the contract with the Lorain Port Authority was signed was APRIL- 2nd 2014. The official announcement JUNE 2nd. 2014

Now forgive me for speaking my thoughts, but how could ANYONE say NAY or stop or express concerns as to the “caliber and tone” of this event or the lowering the bar of community standards - IT WAS ALREADY A DONE DEAL!!! THERE WAS NO ROOM FOR A DIFFERING OPINION.. no one could say NAY!! ( I believe that is called in cricket “well-played gentlemen “) ( for those in doubt – sarcasm)

But this silly old woman, the neighborhood organization and neighbors had , what we believed, were legitimate concerns. Under our letter head we ‘BEFORE THE EVENT” WANTED TO EXPRESS THOSE CONCERNS TO OUR ELECTED REPRESENTATIVES IN GOVERNMENT- THE TAX PAYER FUNDED LORAIN PORT AUTHORITY ( where the event was being staged ) and the LORAIN POLICE DEPT. Both CVSI letters found here :
First Letter -
CVSI RoverFest request
Follow Up Letter
CVSI Formal request Rover Fest 2014 follow up

Now do forgive me, I always thought, and in fact had to learn to get my US citizenship – it was not only my right by also my duty to contact the representatives of government with any concerns. It is the right to be heard and to speak without fear

“The right to petition is fundamental in a Republic, such as the United States, as a means of protecting public participation in government.”

Our right of concern was seen as a threat and being one of the dreaded naysayers in the media comments as well as the “movers and shakers” of Lorain and by a puffed up potentate of the airways. Who also confused me with another who was voicing concerns- we ( I ) was taken down the “rover road” on the airways). I didn’t listen and didn’t care what was being said about me personally, but I do take issue when the organization that has worked to do something to add to this community was ridiculed and denigrated. There are “closet rover listeners”- and my phone would ring – he said this about you yada yada yada
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When one city official was told that I was getting a little fed up with the blame game said “ well she shouldn’t have taken on the Howard Stern of Cleveland”

OH puuuuuuuuuulease !!! I have crossed words with 8 administrations and city councils , Congress , mayors outside Lorain , Senators , editors even the BBC in my time – I could care less about a radio show, with the format of bathroom humour, less comical, than a five year old just discovering he is a male.

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ED NOTE: I would be remiss in not thanking the LPD and the City of Lorain who did follow through with the concerns we had with regard to the parking by Eric Barnes Heroes Walk and there were absolutely NO PROBLEMS IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD OR AT THE SITE. WHICH WAS OUR PRIMARY CONCERN!!!!!

You would think that was the end of it- ah! no the chest beating began and still continues this morning . The editorials lauding the new success of enterprise. All well and good except, once again anyone who had pointed anything of a concern to them was now the subject of nahnana nah and the nay sayer labeling !

I watched , I listened as at least one person( of the 4 that I know of who voiced their thoughts under their own name) , that person, went ‘against the shock jock” using his own colorful language (deemed acceptable in Lorain now) and terminology and under their own name had ,their place of employment sought out – the fact he had a radio show and the implied threat of using the airways to his advantage against a lone citizen , in agreement or not went against the grain.
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Everyone has a right to their opinion in my world, even Shane French . Why should I get back involved in the muck and mire of having an opinion defending the right of those in apparently the minority of Lorain? Did I really want to get back into the fray- ( Part One) NO!

http://thatwoman.wordpress.com/2014/08/05/freedom-of-speech-usa-really/

But as I watched the bully beat of on going editorials, letters to the editor been there before , media and facebook comments -my son’s words kept playing over and over in my head .. KNOWING NOTHING I WOULD SAY WOULD CHANGE A DAMNED THING . Why should I ? Because as one person’s opinion is silenced by the weapons of embarrassment, and ridicule- 10 others look and learn the lesson and walk away- and that my friends is the insidious beginning of the death of free speech!

August 13, 2014 at 3:38 pm 15 comments

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