Kicking Off in England! Kick them back- hard

August 9, 2011 at 1:04 pm 42 comments

London Riots
https://thatwoman.wordpress.com/2011/08/07/crickey-sunday-morning-reading-tottenham-riots-and-squid/

Worrying, as I receive emails from family and friends who are watching as their streets and neighborhoods are filled with violence and fire that is spreading by the “YOBS” because that is what they are this “gansta” subculture that has infected England .

Photo source BBChttp://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-14459417

These “barbarians at the gate” have done more damage than of the “bricks and mortar” kind.
http://www.morningjournal.com/articles/2011/08/09/news/doc4e414100a35aa008975622.txt

The rioters appeared to have little unifying cause — though some claimed to oppose sharp government spending cuts, which will slash welfare payments and cut tens of thousands of public sector jobs through 2015.

But many were attracted simply by the opportunity for violence. “Come join the fun!” shouted one youth in the east London suburb of Hackney, where shops were attacked and cars torched.

Areas such as Brixton, Tottenham in London had deteriorated, due to quite frankly life styles that most would find unacceptable, were making a come back the “community ” and the leaders in those areas were getting their community back, new shops, businesses were making a difference .

As I took the train from Victoria to Beckenham ( where we stay when visiting ) I would feel very uncomfortable just stopping at Brixton – always a bit of a no go area
Brixton – then and now

However, I had noticed on my last two trips ( a couple of years apart ) as I looked out onto the community from the train window there was a notable rebirth happening. The station platform with silent bronze statues reflected the culture and artistry rather than the graffiti and garbage of other days. The market place looked inviting.

But it has only taken a couple of nights of pillaging , burning , running amok, destroying not only the restaurants, but businesses employing the people of their community , businesses owned by people of the community to erase all the hard work.

It is a loss of property, confidence in community leaders but also of respect and there will be great difficulty to get investors back into that community. They have fouled with their filth their own .

Now these low-lifes – the age group of 14-25- in their hoodies a majority of whom are “not working” – are spreading their filthy behaviour across the country through social networks and blackberry and finding like-minded “gangstas” who live for their moment -have done more damage to their community than they even imagined.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2011/aug/09/riots-pembury-estate-community-hackney
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/home/index.html

This is the shocking moment a young man seems to hand over his clothes to thieves after apparently being ordered to strip naked. Internet rumours last night claimed that on top of the widespread destruction across London and Birmingham, people were having their clothes removed by looters as police attempted to contain the criminality. Elsewhere a boy is shown being apparently assisted by a group of youths – who then rob him as they help him to his feet.

And to those that instigate should go the fiercest punishment one that matches the “damage that has been done to a nation by the actions of a few . No more of this molly coddling , counseling , oh the poor deprived children clap trap. Time to take a tough stand – The molly coddling isn’t working England – these are criminals, looters, arsonists and anarchists therefore they should be treated as such.

Bending over backwards means you end up flat on your back– Time to step up and come down -hard. Community leaders need to start leading and take back their community and let the population know their homes and businesses are worth something to them.

England , no matter how inviting the Olympic appeal,you will find the global community will think twice about the treading the “Streets of London”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DiWomXklfv8

Have you seen the old man
In the closed down market
Kicking up the papers,
with his worn out shoes?
In his eyes you see no pride
AND held loosely AT his side
Yesterday’s paper telling yesterday’s news

Chorus: So how can you tell me you’re lonely,
and say for you that the sun don’t shine,
Let me take you by the hand and lead you through the streets of London
I’ll show you something to make you change your mind.

Have you seen the old girl
Who walks the streets of London
Dirt in her hair and her clothes in rags
She’s no time for talking
she just keeps right on walking
Carrying her home in two carrier bags.

Chorus

In the all night cafe
At a quarter past eleven,
Same old man sitting there on his own
Looking at the world
Over the rim of his tea-cup,
each tea lasts an hour,
And he wanders home alone

Chorus

Have you seen the old man
Outside the Seamen’s Mission
Memory fading with the medal ribbons that he wears
In our winter city
The rain cries a little pity
For one more forgotten hero
And a world that doesn’t care

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42 Comments Add your own

  • 1. Tony  |  August 9, 2011 at 3:50 pm

    Hi,
    To all your readers, just got home sent all my staff home early, will take a days holiday off them later (only joking). What a mess I felt cornered in last night Croydon, Lewisham and Catford all had fires and looting Bromley High Street looting, Beckenham is right in the middle, the Police are expecting trouble tonight

    I am not going to offer an opinion but am disgusted the future of the Country the youths are behaving this way, have just heard they are looting in West Bromwich in the midlands so it’s not even restricted to London. If I had my way I would bring back subscription into the Army and the 200 plus they have arrested give them a Green uniform and send them to Afghanistain to lay new telecoms cables

    Tony a true brit

  • 2. thatwoman  |  August 9, 2011 at 4:10 pm

    Hi Tony glad you are indoors……… worrying because as people leave work they have to take trains through these areas..look what the creatures have done to the buses can the trains remain unscathed as they troll through the districts and move like some cancerous locusts through the streets. …. it is disgraceful what has become of England in just over a generation……. from the greatest generation to gangstas….. bloody marvellous !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • 3. London Calling  |  August 9, 2011 at 4:30 pm

    Found your blog through links. I am almost a prisoner in my own home. Never did I think I would be frightened by the horrific violence in my own street. The bloody government seems to be scared to act, they might “upset some people”! Meanwhile we watch as our way of life and lives are threatened by local terrorists. Tell America stay away , the threat of losing your tourism dollars may cause the government to crack down faster than the plight of its own citizenry . Thanks! Back to the telly and the internet . James

  • 4. thatwoman  |  August 9, 2011 at 5:16 pm

    Hello London Calling- the terrorists in this case being neighbors is just outrageous. I just heard the BBC interview with two young girls.. Showing the rich what we can do and hoping the fun continues
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-14458424
    The mind boggles at this sort of “diseased thinking”- hope you have a quieter night.

  • 5. London Calling  |  August 9, 2011 at 5:45 pm

    Jeremy Yates from London I was in Clapham Junction when the looting was taking place and was part of a human barricade. About eighty of us joined together to stop them from going further into residential areas. One of them was shouting things like “you are rich, we are poor” and “we rule London tonight, not you.” The scariest bit was when the police arrived and there was a stampede as about 200 looters ran down the street. Today I took part in the clean-up in Clapham Junction. It was like a civil coming together, a great atmosphere.

  • 6. Tony  |  August 9, 2011 at 5:50 pm

    Seems quiet at the moment they have drafted in another 10,000 police fingers crossed is it over.

    London looks like pictures I have seen of the blitz, what is nice to see is someone has come up with the idea of getting everyone armed with brooms and the citizens are clearing up Clapham

  • 7. thatwoman  |  August 9, 2011 at 5:59 pm

    Just watching the BBC news live on the internet and here comes the “poor us” excuses and oh they are going to enforce laws that will “UNNECESARILY CRIMILIZE THESE YOUNG PEOPLE” duhhhhhh THEY ARE BLOODY CRIMINALS and should be treated as such. Also that they will be charged not in magistrates court by in Crown Court where the penaltyis harsher. Bring on the bleeding hearts…….. seeing London in flames again by its own yobbery citizens is sickening.

  • 8. Tony  |  August 9, 2011 at 6:11 pm

    Yep they should have got out the water cannons or the rubber bullets on Monday but would not be PC

  • 9. thatwoman  |  August 9, 2011 at 6:41 pm

    2,000 yobbos apparently running amock in the city center of Manchester- at the moment .sigh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • 10. Tony  |  August 9, 2011 at 7:00 pm

    Yes just looking at the live pictures, amazing modern technology you can watch these mindless idiots actually live looting setting fire to people livelihoods, the only thing technology has not sorted is allowing me to climb into the television live and give these kids a good smack

    All happening in Salford Manchester shops and cars burning, no reports of any unrest in London yet

  • 11. thatwoman  |  August 9, 2011 at 7:08 pm

    Maybe Sir Alex Ferguson can offer them tickets to Man U – maybe that will appease the little darlins’ anarchy by adolescents

  • 12. Mark  |  August 9, 2011 at 7:09 pm

    Hope all of your family is safe, Loraine.

    Tony, be careful.

  • 13. Tony  |  August 9, 2011 at 7:15 pm

    Thanks Mark much appreciated

    Rioting and looting taking place in Brum or Birmingham for your readers, London still quiet at the moment everything crossed

  • 14. London Calling  |  August 9, 2011 at 7:55 pm

    According to the news there are “group leaders” directing some of these groups of wankers in Manchester . It is organized , who is directing this? The police seem to just herding and standing down. Why?

  • 15. Tony  |  August 9, 2011 at 8:00 pm

    I said the same earlier today it must be organised, this is not just kids this is organised up and down the country, seems like the little munchkins are having an early night in London

  • 16. Mike M  |  August 9, 2011 at 8:04 pm

    The question becomes if these intelligence challenged twits are being used as a weapon, who then, is behind this ? They seem to have successfully disrupted our quality of life, instilling fear and inflicting economical chaos are they part of a bigger plan?

  • 17. Tony  |  August 9, 2011 at 8:08 pm

    Just heard they targeted a supermarket in Manchester which they looted and a family drew up and filled the trunk of their car disgusting pond life

  • 18. thatwoman  |  August 9, 2011 at 8:10 pm

    For those that wish you can get all the breaking news ( video ) here

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-14449675

  • 19. thatwoman  |  August 9, 2011 at 8:14 pm

    Lucky they can afford the petrol and a car Tony- stay safe

    Worryingly Mike’s words of “used as a weapon” is it home grown terrorism because they can…… or are they the bullets and who is pulling the trigger…….. and who purchased the gun?

  • 20. thatwoman  |  August 9, 2011 at 8:17 pm

    just googled the definition of terrorism

    Terrorism | Define Terrorism at Dictionary.com
    noun 1. the use of violence and threats to intimidate or coerce, especially for political purposes. 2. the state of fear and submission produced by terrorism …………. Can the leaders of these gangs be charged under any terrorism act?

  • 21. Tony  |  August 9, 2011 at 8:19 pm

    Situation in Birmingham and West Brom getting worse

    The bullet that was lodged in the police mans radio was a police bullet so they fired at will even though Mr Duggan had a replica gun

  • 22. Paula Tobias  |  August 9, 2011 at 8:30 pm

    Listened to NPR today. It seems they are using today’s technology, They’re facebooking/tweeting where the police are, so when they arrive they leave.

    16-25 yr olds, no job, nothing to look forward to….. can you say Group Think?

  • 23. Loraine Ritchey  |  August 9, 2011 at 8:33 pm

    well Tony there was apparently a “round” in the chamber of the gun and it wasn’t according to the BBC exactly a replica and met the firearms act. The guy was also a gang banger according to his record. However , the yobos didn’t eactly wait for the answers and if you ask me it is not an “excuse” for what has happened, but I think that people have taken advantage of a situation and fanned the flames…..

  • 24. Dennis Lamont  |  August 9, 2011 at 8:34 pm

    It is exactly what “we” went through in the 70s in cities across the USA. And it looks like the same conditions are fermenting here again with a different generation under the same pressure cooker as the have-nots increase in number. All we can do hope nobody listens when Jesse J says “take to the streets”. It solved nothing last time and it will solve nothing next time ….and the beat goes on.

  • 25. Tony  |  August 9, 2011 at 8:44 pm

    Agreed it’s absolutely no reason Loraine for what’s going on, it’s just an excuse to continue criminal activities. It was interesting the 200 youths that have kicked off in Manchester the local MP just said the majority are known to Police.

    Paula yes social networks can work against you in situations like this or be abused, they are difficult to turn off as they can affect other aspects like emergency mobile calls.

    London still quiet

  • 26. Loraine Ritchey  |  August 9, 2011 at 8:49 pm

    Paula , we have in England a “yob culture” you have heard of our football hooligans and the reputations they have for “storming abroad” at football games. Drink and too much time on their hands.
    We have babied and tried to “understand” these poor young people too long. Also they are enamoured with the gangsta subcultural which came from here …they also are ready for the “handout”- laziness and the benefits.

    .. since England joined the EU and borders came down there have been many Europeans coming into Britain for work- work is there – just ask the Poles, Romanians etc. . and it works both ways the British can also go forth to Europe . Also since they do not have to worry about “medical benefits” you can always set up your own businees….. a lot of my family have done just that- from plasterers, builders etc. but they are the give me , fear me, owe me culture

  • 27. Tony  |  August 9, 2011 at 9:02 pm

    A very valid point that was just made that if your child brings looted goods into your home and you fail to report to the police you can also be charged as an accessory to the robbery if discovered.

    I really wonder where we are going with this, it will not blow over in an instance, is this how things will be here in England? Kind off worrying that a bit of mindless organisation can cause this much disruption.

    Well I am off to bed with my baseball bat and the two dogs, so if anyone thinks there getting in or getting anything, they will be either smacked for a home run or will have a load of terrier teeth marks

  • 28. Loraine Ritchey  |  August 9, 2011 at 9:20 pm

    Tony where is your cricket bat ???? 🙂

  • 29. Dennis Lamont  |  August 9, 2011 at 11:13 pm

    http://news.yahoo.com/londoners-strike-back-operation-riot-clean-155127609.html

    I do believe that these are the Londoners we know and love !

  • 30. denise aka mozart  |  August 10, 2011 at 1:30 am

    Oh my goodness..seeing it on the news, vs. reading these stories..it is unbelievable. How could humanity have gone so wrong. I can not wrap my mind around this kind of terrorism. Thanks for the read Loraine, hope your family remains safe…you need peace in your life now.

  • 31. Rosie  |  August 10, 2011 at 7:59 am

    Has been a fairly quiet night, which is a relief. I think the problem is the values many people seem to fail to instill in their offspring – my parents had nothing when they married back in the 60s but with hard work they raised our standard of living and we have the same work ethic. I wouldn’t dream of scratching someone else’s car let alone looting a shop but other people don’t have the same standard of respect for others. Unfortunately those kind are increasing in this country, or at least have a louder voice than those of us who care about our community. Trouble is these looters come from generation after generation of people who don’t care about others – the key is changing their attitudes. I wish I had an answer!

    It’s awesome though to see people meeting to clean up the streets – this is the real UK spirit and long may it last!

  • 32. Loraine Ritchey  |  August 10, 2011 at 10:47 am

    Hi Rosie hope you don’t mind I wanted to share the email you wrote as well-

    On Monday! We were at a show in London and came out to an alternate reality. Was a bit scary coming home on the train as we had to go through Clapham and Croydon but all was fine. We could smell the burning at Croydon and were amazed when we watched the news. There was rioting just 3 miles from us yesterday and shops were closed by early afternoon but doesn’t seem to have been any significant trouble last night so hopefully its over for the moment but leaves us feeling a little nervous about going into Croydon which is our largest shopping centre. Will have to find new places!!

  • 33. thatwoman  |  August 10, 2011 at 11:37 am

    Just some snippits from England

    “the first person who appeared in the dock this morning was a 31-year-old teacher called Alexis Bailey. She pleaded guilty to being part of the looting of the Richer Sounds store in Croydon.”

    Wonderful!!!

    and yes this what is going to happen I said it two days ago…..

    Conservative MP for Gloucester Richard Graham “Last night was bad news for our city. Hooliganism on the streets – a fire in the old arts college, some bins burnt on Barton Street and three or four shop windows badly damaged. More worrying is the invisible damage – negative headlines in national papers and the impact of that on investors looking at putting millions of pounds into regeneration projects and new jobs. And the fear of people living here that next time it could be their windows at home.”

  • 34. Joyce  |  August 10, 2011 at 2:38 pm

    Saw this and thought of you…

  • […] https://thatwoman.wordpress.com/2011/08/09/kicking-off-in-england-kick-them-back-hard/ Photos Bruce Adams – Daily Mail-For the past few days I have monitored what has happened on the streets of London and in other large cities . I have seen the excuses , I have seen the trying to fathom- I have seen the politically correct- non responsive attitude of the powers that be and I have seen the effects of “yobbery” on he streets where I used to live! […]

  • 36. Dawn  |  August 11, 2011 at 8:04 pm

    Seems quiet tonight – Lesley said today that they shut the pubs yesterday at 4pm in the afternoon in Barnet & E.Barnet and up at Waltham X the huge Tescos closed, hid all the booze and boarded up! She had to go to the hospital today in Barnet and she felt like she had to look over her shoulder all the time Glad I don’t live up there now – did you see that mindless girl who quoted -“when you give us respect!! we will respect you” what a very sad outlook – guess I am lucky (not many want to come down this lane anyway) – keep safe Tony.

  • 37. Loraine Ritchey  |  August 11, 2011 at 9:04 pm

    I have been watching the House of Commons debate all afternoon and for all the pontificating I don’t see them having a workable solution – very sad to see this in England- and worrying because this time “England does not stand alone” the problems being faced on the streets are here as well………… pretty bad when they close the pubs 😦

  • 38. wonderingbrit  |  August 13, 2011 at 3:37 am

    I would like to say that… I had something to add, but I simply don’t.
    My anger at this is sky high atm.
    So, the only way I do deal with humour – I promptly phoned a Police buddy and said hey, if you get called in by the Met, do you give the shopping list directly to them and or what?

    But the reality today is 5 dead, 60 families homeless and people actually sat in fear of their lives in their own homes…

    Fk’in speechless………..

  • 39. Loraine Ritchey  |  August 13, 2011 at 10:53 am

    “never have so many been wronged by so few” – I can’t shake the feeling that there were those that used these ” intellectually challenged yobos” as a” weapon” ……… I really believe there is another arm to this – when you think about it and the damage that was done to England and her people and infrastructure , physically financially and internationally ……… the weapon of choice being her own inhabitants —- just a thought but one that keeps nagging at me..

  • 40. Dawn  |  August 14, 2011 at 8:03 pm

    Quite agree Loraine – I was only thinking along the same lines but thought I had better not voice it – another weapon rather than bombs strapped to bodies – makes you think.

  • 41. Loraine Ritchey  |  August 14, 2011 at 8:17 pm

    well it would be cheap and not have to go through security …. sigh!
    makes you wonder…..

  • 42. Loraine Ritchey  |  August 14, 2011 at 8:19 pm

    Oh and just call me paranoid if you want and I am sorry the knives in my back are blocking the bullseye 😉

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