This Is London and the rest! Next ????

August 10, 2011 at 4:53 pm 6 comments

https://thatwoman.wordpress.com/2011/08/07/crickey-sunday-morning-reading-tottenham-riots-and-squid/

https://thatwoman.wordpress.com/2011/08/09/kicking-off-in-england-kick-them-back-hard/

Photos Bruce Adams - Daily Mail-

For the past few days I have monitored what has happened on the streets of London and in other large cities . I have seen the excuses , I have seen the trying to fathom– I have seen the politically correctnon responsive attitude of the powers that be and I have seen the effects of “yobbery” on the streets where I used to live!

Why didn’t the police in England come down harder in the initial outbreaks? – policing by consent being the rule of the day
http://web.mit.edu/gtmarx/www/dempol.html

The development of the British police has involved a continual public debate about how to protect democratic liberties while maintaining effectiveness against crime and disorder..

Can you imagine the shock and horror of a policeman dressed in his/her riot gear and the fresh face punk stealing that bottle of vodka – this poor little 10-year-old “cherub” grimacing into the camera because he was injured by the authorities – the photo would be flashed around the world ah the hue and cry and possibly causing more unrest. The police forces there and this country are in a very difficult situation!

The thing is “these yobos” KNOW this and are using it – the cries –

you can’t touch me- you are useless- nothing is going to happen to me- we are in control –

taunt with a truth !

So why does this affect us here in Lorain? In my opinion lack of accountability and victimology thinking is also prevalent in this little corner of the world– thankfully not to the extent in London.

However the reasoning, the problems, and lack of accountability is the same but magnified by numbers involved in cities such as London , Manchester etc. It is the “numbers” that overwhelm the residents of those cities but just because we are fewer in population here doesn’t mean we should not be worried – the root cause is there and here !
BECAUSE THEY CAN

Photo Source BBC- Riot photos http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-14471098I read this morning a commentary by Max Hastings
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-2024284/UK-riots-2011-Liberal-dogma-spawned-generation-brutalised-youths.html
The feral children, don’t stay 8,9, 10 year olds for long, grow up quickly and in some cases are “having babies ” (to prove their manhood in the young teenage years), they get bigger and stronger and find like minded groups, they are a phenomenon not just in Britain but here in the USA as well.

I would suggest reading the article in full, however here are some highlights:

A few weeks after the U.S. city of Detroit was ravaged by 1967 race riots in which 43 people died, I was shown around the wrecked areas by a black reporter named Joe Strickland.
He said: ‘Don’t you believe all that stuff people here are giving media folk about how sorry they are about what happened. When they talk to each other, they say: “It was a great fire, man!” 
I am sure that is what many of the young rioters, black and white, who have burned and looted in England through the past few shocking nights think today….


Photo Source Daily Mail

But it will not do for a moment to claim the rioters’ behaviour reflects deprived circumstances or police persecution.

Of course it is true that few have jobs, learn anything useful at school, live in decent homes, eat meals at regular hours or feel loyalty to anything beyond their local gang.
This is not, however, because they are victims of mistreatment or neglect.

It is because it is fantastically hard to help such people, young or old, without imposing a measure of compulsion which modern society finds unacceptable. These kids are what they are because nobody makes them be anything different or better.

A key factor in delinquency is lack of effective sanctions to deter it. From an early stage, feral children discover that they can bully fellow pupils at school, shout abuse at people in the streets, urinate outside pubs, hurl litter from car windows, play car radios at deafening volumes, and, indeed, commit casual assaults with only a negligible prospect of facing rebuke, far less retribution.

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Fire over England fueled by lack of accountability

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6 Comments Add your own

  • 1. The Observer  |  August 10, 2011 at 11:53 pm

    Lack of comments… makes me wonder if people are afraid to comment that this sounds/looks like issues had in the States.

    Sense of Entitlement
    Bullies
    Lack of Family Values

    My goodness this exists in Lorain!

  • 2. Loraine Ritchey  |  August 11, 2011 at 11:34 am

    How d you enforce family values and responsibilty ? ( and whose ideas of family values??? what is a family value??? But that being said taking what you and I believe to be the norm – 2 parents, support system the teaching of basics responsibility to society and to yourself….. it is either there or it isn’t and actually this is not the “lifestyle this generation of yobbos has known”

    I remember a friend who married young after 25 years of marriage her husband buggered off with another woman. Do you know she had never chosen even an outfit for herself – she had been a “housewife and mother” never had any money of her own her husband paid all the bills, made all the decisions- when she was literally thrown out into the world – I was incredulous that she had never chosen even an outfit for herself ( and actually she had different taste from her husband) I said to her as we went shopping why did you go along with that for so long……. she said ” it was like that in my family you followed your husbands wishes, and I thought everyones marriage was like that– ……..

    . granted it was a few years ago this happened but for her it was the norm and for the “creatures” spawned from todays “do what you want” society in England and yes in the US it is their norm-

    How do you change the “take” cycle I don’t know but I do know our values have some merit and shouldn’t be discarded by the “poor them” faction.

  • 3. thatwoman  |  August 11, 2011 at 11:46 am

    As for lack of comments I seem to have touched a nerve with these posts you would not believe some that have thankfully gone into spam from the “anti’s on all sides of the debate” ( and I use the word debate lightly) – I have read all of them and some are plain vile and sickening on BOTH sides…….

  • […] Why are we chastised for being law abiding, paying taxes and demanding the same from those that share our community? Why is it wrong to expect that the police enforce existing laws that help make a community a place that people WANT to live in? https://thatwoman.wordpress.com/2011/07/28/a-very-civilized-affair-well-that-is-meeting/ Laws are not created for people that know how to behave and treat their fellow man. Laws are created for people that simply don’t believe in the rules of civilization and do not know how to behave. When you break the law you should expect to pay consequences of that action. The lack of respect for the law and for public facilities as well as good behavior are becoming unbearable and will either cause the death of this community or create animosity that results in a violence. Neither is an acceptable option. https://thatwoman.wordpress.com/2011/08/10/this-is-london-and-the-rest-next/ […]

  • 5. Lisa  |  August 11, 2011 at 10:35 pm

    This says it all:
    “These kids are what they are because nobody makes them be anything different or better.”
    How do you change that when the world is full of yobbos?
    [my new favorite word 😀 thanks loraine]

  • 6. Loraine Ritchey  |  August 12, 2011 at 12:26 am

    Don’t know Lisa feral children from feral breeders ( can’t say parents because they don’t fit that description as it connotates caring and loving) and these kids are in a whole different society than what you and I are used to ….. and then the cycle goes on and on and eventually they make their presence known as they have in England . 😦 The House of Commons website has a petition page and if you can get 100,000 people to sign the peition your question will be brought to the floor of the House…… today those numbers have been met as the peitioners want the “benefits of those found guilty of looting and thug like behaviour cut off……… but then what happens more thuggery to support their lifestyle ….they have no regard for the system or the rule of law as there is no accountability .

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