Trees coming down Oberlin Ave – Meeting -Downtown Review Board

March 12, 2012 at 6:23 pm 21 comments

http://chronicle.northcoastnow.com/2012/03/13/up-to-70-oberlin-avenue-trees-to-be-removed/

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Due to a City of Lorain Utilities project- the replacement of the water lines along Oberlin Avenue ( under the sidewalks) approximately 75 trees are marked to come down along the thoroughfare from West Erie as far as Meister Road.

There is a meeting with the Downtown Review Board on Thursday March 15th at 6:00 p.m City Council Chambers – Lorain City Hall for those residents and concerned citizens

This summer the City of Lorain, in conjunction with Lorain County and the Ohio Department of Transportation, plans to repave Oberlin Ave. and replace the waterline servicing residents in the area. In order to perform this work approximately 75 trees in the right-of-way must be removed. The project includes replacement of some trees. This meeting is being held to inform residents of the tree re-moval and give them the opportunity to ask questions about the project. Tree removal must take place prior to April 1st to avoid disturbing any nesting Indiana bats. Please attend to learn more about the project

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  • 1. Dave Cotton  |  March 12, 2012 at 10:56 pm

    what a shame . . .
    “progress!”

  • 2. Grammy  |  March 13, 2012 at 1:30 am

    Trees by Joyce Kilmer

    I THINK that I shall never see
    A poem lovely as a tree.

    A tree whose hungry mouth is prestsed
    Against the sweet earth’s flowing breast;

    A tree that looks at God all day, 5
    And lifts her leafy arms to pray;

    A tree that may in summer wear
    A nest of robins in her hair;

    Upon whose bosom snow has lain;
    Who intimately lives with rain.

    Poems are made by fools like me,
    But only God can make a tree.

    *Once they’re gone, it will take generations to replace. Man needs to rethink his relationship with this earth!

  • 3. Dennis Lamont  |  March 13, 2012 at 1:00 pm

    Just keep replacing them after they come down …it’s the only way to get even! They are worth their weight in gold unless you are in love with the scorching sun and driving wind and no respite.

  • 4. Loraine Ritchey  |  March 13, 2012 at 1:26 pm

    I did a quick calculation on the silver maple
    http://www.treebenefits.com/calculator/
    and we are looking at 365 dollars benefit per year times 75??? give or take different species etc. say 250 a year still adds up however replacing them seems to be problematical under the current tree lawn ordinance – hopefully some will come to the meeting because taking down this many and leaving those damned utitlity poles up will certainly change the area and we need some softening and ambiance………

  • 5. paula tobias  |  March 13, 2012 at 8:53 pm

    Put water lines under the side walks so we aren’t always tearing up streets that have been repaved when there’s a water line break.

    What about putting the other utility under the side walk? Electric lines (yeah I know sounds scary water and electricity)

    But what could the savings be to not have lines exposed to the elements? Let alone the improvement in the view?

    Oberlin Ave. is a main corridor for the City.

  • 6. Dennis Lamont  |  March 13, 2012 at 9:22 pm

    Think about Sugar Maple (Acer saccharum), not silver maple. Silver Maple gets spindly and and the wood is brittle and wind prone. SUgar Maple forms a nice dense crown and is glorious in the fall.

  • 7. Loraine Ritchey  |  March 13, 2012 at 10:02 pm

    I wasn’t thinking of replacing with a silver maple some of the trees in question that are coming down are silver maples that is why I I did the benefit calculator on a silver maple 🙂

  • 8. Brian  |  March 14, 2012 at 1:56 am

    I don’t care for the main reason “what’s in it for me?”. One street, Oberlin Ave, when so many streets in our city are scorched with hardly a tree replaced over the last fifteen or so years.

    The law says no trees. Work on getting rid of the law and get trees for all, I might join you, until then, welcome to what the rest of the city has to deal with.

  • 9. Brian  |  March 14, 2012 at 11:20 am

    Trees are illegal as the law is written, but trees were planted at the Harborview development as a key component to development. In fact, the only thing that can be put in the TREE LAWN is a TRASH CAN so lets change the name of that little piece of grass to the trash lawn to be more politically correct.

  • 10. Loraine Ritchey  |  March 14, 2012 at 11:37 am

    Ok Brian this is NOT a whats in it for me ( never has been) – as far as I am concerned I don’t know what will happen…..the trees are coming down and afterwards one of Lorain’s busiest North South corridors all the way along that avenue will lose trees and will change and athestically not for the better. …… in my opinion.

    I KNOW the way the the current ordinance is written nothing can be put on the “tree” lawn and I don’t have one in my street by the way so I can’t even put a trash can on one. That is what the meeting is about to see IF anything can be done what can be done………laws changed , landscaping alternatives? I don’t know but what I do know we will be left with horrible ugly utility poles on the trees lawns holding up sagging and unattractive lines. That will be on the those tree lawns………… maybe I could suggest painting them green. 😦

  • 11. Brian  |  March 14, 2012 at 11:40 am

    If you think for a second that if you can save a few trees on this one street that the residents have won something, I disagree. The residents lost a long time ago when the city created the POLICY that trees are too expensive to maintain, so the city made them illegal with a LAW.

    Those gash darn trees. They wreak havoc on the neighborhood. Every year they drop off their clothes and run around naked for months!

    Why else would the city write such a law???

  • 12. Loraine Ritchey  |  March 14, 2012 at 11:53 am

    I didn’t say I could SAVE any tree on Oberlin Avenue- I don’t believe it is possible .but it would be nice if there was a way.you forget I have been down this “street” before and although we ran out of money to carve the rest of the trees on 2nd street and something will be have to be done about those now…we did try to recylce the trees.as you well know…… I understand why the ordinance was written mainly because of the underground water and and sewer lines and the popping up of sidewalks. However there are ways of still having a softening and ambiance with landscaping and trees that aren’t a nuisance or ways to plant that won’t compromise sidewalks and lines. Have to go now babysitting 🙂

  • 13. Brian  |  March 15, 2012 at 1:55 am

    Loraine,
    I am sorry if I am somewhat of a downer, but the lack of trees has been a conditioned response. Lorain had a well maintained park system at one time, now we are happy if they can cut the grass.

    Parks and wreck is now whoever can ride a lawnmower and operate a weedeater that works for the city. Streets are shot, along with our sewers and waterlines, but guess what, we need more firemen and policemen and we don’t pay them enough, so we have been told.

    Police and fire, that is all our city needs. Lay off a few firemen or policemen and they are marching to the papers, planning mass gatherings, or they are taking the city to court to make sure nothing else gets funded in this city.

    We have all become conditioned so to say. Our city has the worst performing school district in nearly the entire state with one of the highest cost per student ratios and gosh darn it, they haven’t had a levy increase in twenty years! I am sure glad we elected all them honest liars to represent us as to what our problems are.

    The decision on the trees has already been made. It is how many trees can be replanted with x amout of dollars that has been budgeted for the project. The trees will never be taken care of or pruned, but for the sound bite for a politician, the city will allow some of us to have a few trees in front of our houses as everyone else gets to stare at their trash lawn.

  • 14. Loraine Ritchey  |  March 15, 2012 at 11:59 am

    I know Brian and I am not disagreeing with you – yes the decision has been made -all those things you say are true and it a sad thing that we have less and are paying more……….. I haven’t got any answers ……… I can’t get excited or passionate about anything, the I can do that or I can fix that saviour syndrome has left me too……. I go through the motions……

  • 15. joe smith  |  March 15, 2012 at 5:33 pm

    Tree lines streets reduce traffic accidents:

    http://www.triplepundit.com/2010/04/common-sense-reveals-that-trees-reduce-car-accidents/

    Tree lines streets cut asthma:

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/7374078.stm

    These are our tax dollars being spent. If replacement of these trees hasn’t been included in the cost we must insist our elected and appointed officials refigure the cost of the project. If there is
    legislation that prohibits replacing tree on tree lawns a waiver should be granted.

    I would also encourage that the curbs be replaced on Oberlin.
    Curbs help channel rain water towards street draines. On West Erie Ave curbs were not replaced

  • 16. joe smith  |  March 15, 2012 at 5:37 pm

    …..between Brownell and Oberlin Avenues…rain water sits crating safe driving issues. Curbs can also help keep cars from ruining the grass in our front yards.

    See you this evening.

  • 17. Loraine Ritchey  |  March 15, 2012 at 8:28 pm

    I have no curbs left on 4th and most of the ones that were left are now on the sidewalk after the last two plows went through

  • 18. Brian  |  March 16, 2012 at 12:28 am

    Joe,
    Taking care of trees takes money and effort. Two things that most residents are not going to be seeing the city spend it on.

    Funny you mentioned the curbs. I remember talking to you the day the city said they were not putting them in to save some money.

  • 19. Brian  |  March 16, 2012 at 12:37 am

    Joe,
    Now that I think about it, that was the day the city was saying they put in these drains along the side of the road and they also praised how well it was going to work, or had worked on Kolbe Road

  • 20. Lisa  |  March 16, 2012 at 3:59 am

    It will do no good to save the trees. After the damage done by OE/FE to the canopies and the unavoidable damage that will be done to the roots during the sewer project, if those trees don’t come down before/during the project, they will have to come down after and hopefully not on their own. A lot of the trees on Oberlin Avenue have been tagged for removal for a long time.
    I do agree 100 bazillion percent with Paula about burying the power lines while they have everything dug up.

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