Linking Landlords- bloggers- and picture this- Lorain

July 20, 2012 at 11:29 am 26 comments

Lisa, over at Buster’s House decided to go see what blog commenter Denise was complaining about – couldn’t be that bad OR could it – you need to see for yourself.
As Seen In Lorain: West 9th Street and Long Avenue

This particular “vintage” house worthy of a postcard at one point in its life is for sale – it has certainly become the snapshot of what is wrong with Lorain

Lisa also points out how the names of the conglomerate landlords have added to the charm on this neighborhood on 9th and Long. Now where have I seen these names before ……….

to be continued but in the meantime Lorain 365 blog has a great reminder for “blue bag recycling campaign”-

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  • 1. Loraine Ritchey  |  July 20, 2012 at 4:02 pm

    Gary whose house can just be seen in the corner of the last photo of the house at 739 W 9th on Buster’s Blog

    contacted me and gave me permission to add his thoughts to the comments

    Hi Loraine

    From research the landlord of 9th and Long owns about a dozen in foreclosure he is bankrupt and didn’t know that the sheriff sale was blocked by the mortgage holder. I think its the RBS. I look at it every day and the explanation to me from city hall was the recourse is to throw the landlord in jail. It still won’t get the house fixed, but maybe that will get some action.

    I have been trying to get a refi to do more improvements to my home but cannot because of properties like this.

    I am starting to reno 836 Lexington and have to pay for and pull permits yet the slumlords seem to be above the law.

    ALL the residents In the city NEED to know that these vacant and dilapidated properties affect their property values no matter where they live in the city!

  • 2. aka/mozart  |  July 20, 2012 at 5:49 pm

    well..gary would also know first hand with this slum housing in our area….i have been here over 30 years…33 to be exact..this area was so nice…the park was respectful with parents with their kids…homes were kept up…and i didnt even lock my door back then…not now…i wont even answer my door if i dont know you are coming…so many new faces…dont know where they come from or where they go.

    Tiolets on porch roofs as ghetto satalite dishes…couches on porches along with westinghouse frigs…. screens hanging off windows..and garbage all over thecurb and street…(.the other day i had called the street dept and i had to go around the garbage that was in the street on washington off 10th)…

    .perhaps we as residents can somehow find a way to take back our hoods…..perhaps some wine and cheese and ideas and protest…we might come up with something short of ending
    up in jail…..HOW CAN WE HELP YOU CHASE?…ILL GIVE MORE MONEY…JUST SHOW ME THAT YOU UNDERSTAND THAT WE HAVE HAD ENOUGH….zero tolerance….proactive..not reactitive…
    if we mean it…they will hear it..and move on….life is pretty good for these slum landlords…they get their rent…but life sucks for us…as we have to live next to and see it…and devalues our homes and our lives…while these slums thrive…what can we do???????
    If this were CANCER…(WHICH it is)…and it was going to take you down…you’d be fighting like hell to stay alive…that is what we are doing here…fighting to stay alive…and it starts with “home”…

  • 3. Loraine Ritchey  |  July 20, 2012 at 6:21 pm

    I agree and as I said on Lorain county dot com the fact that the little girls were using this house to play and save little kittens ( what a draw) is DANGEROUS!!!!! You will find them all wringing their hands and playing the blame game when a child gets hurt or worse in one of these place we will have thenm standing on the streets with candles in paper cups……. too late…do something NOW!!! I am so tired of the phrase ‘ WE ARE WORKING ON IT” i HAVE HEARD THAT FOR TOO MANY Y E A R S

    and banks for that matter stop DUMPING your bad mortgage decisions and making me pay for your lack of ability in making business decisions !!!!

  • 4. Renee Dore  |  July 20, 2012 at 8:53 pm

    The sad thing ( to add to the list of sad things about these situations) is that it takes only a few years for these homes to turn into these unsightly dumps we have scattered on many of our streets. They’re everywhere. If the owners of the awful places had to spend time living by them then maybe things would be different. But they don’t-perhaps maybe that would be better a fine -have them spend a night or 2 lnside these places. Renee

  • 5. Darla Cuevas  |  July 21, 2012 at 1:23 pm

    the landlord in foreclosure he is bankrupt. How can the city want to throw him in jail or fine him? maybe thats what they should do to bad tenants, They trash the place or they dont pay rent. Then how can the landlord make housepayment. im sure he has his own bills to pay. so should he use his own money to save his investment? seems like the city wants you to fix the house so the bank can take it.

  • 6. Loraine Ritchey  |  July 21, 2012 at 1:56 pm

    Well obviously you can’t get blood out of a stone – BUT is he personally bankrupt or did they bankrupt the business ( they owned more than one property) so who bears the responsiblity ?

    If there was money owed on the mortgage then until you pay that mortgage a bank or finance institution can lay claim to the property – the banks decided to “lend” the money to the purchaser and takes the property as collateral basically—— so are they the “owners of the property”- Could it be they bear some responsibilty for lending money to a business ( rental) that seemingly couldn’t meet their obligations?

    If the banks then are the partner in one of these business transactions then maybe we should be looking at making them accountable for their decisions

    As ftr poor tenants I will be addressing that aspect in a post….. but these business landlords and I am not talking about the people who have one or two rentals ( there are good landlords and good tenants ) I know several…. I am talking about those that own dozens and actually have a negative impact on neighborhoods by becoming the “saturated solution of minimum standards”

    Maybe a couple of bank presidents being held in Lorain county jail might send a wake up call- or having to live in on next to these people for a year in one of their own “bankrupt mortgaged properties might send a message 🙂

    All I know is whether it is the land lord, the bank or the clientelle they rent to is responsible I DO KNOW I AM NOT RESPONSIBLE AND I AM TIRED OF LIVING LIKE THIS AND BEING ASHAMED OF MY CITY!!!

  • 7. Darla Cuevas  |  July 21, 2012 at 4:01 pm

    in 2005 i bought a dueplex, i rented out one side lived in the other. that made my house payment. i was told by the mortage company in 2 years i need to refi because i have a arm loan and my payments will go up. in the mean time i was putting sidding on the house. my tenant stoped paying rent. gave me sad stories, so i gave her a chance. she wanted to live there. whell her boyfriend did not, he started to lossen up gas pipes. It made a bad gas leak, that cost all my tax refund to fix. Had no money left to finsh the sidding. my payment went up, i could not refi my credit was not good. The city wanted me to finish the sidding or they were going to fine me 1,000. I was 3 months behind on my payment, it was double now. The only thing i can do was a short sale. 7 years later the house looks the same 1/2 sidded. But im ok, things are better now.

  • 8. Loraine Ritchey  |  July 21, 2012 at 5:16 pm

    Unfortunately you aren’t alone and having a good heart got in the way of “business” these “business landlords would not have been caught up and unfortunately you were the one that was taken advantage of by the boyfriend who should have been prosecuted. what he did was used the “gas” as a weapon just as if he had loosened the brakes on your was a life threatening act… I would hold the city to task they were going to fine you so the new owner should have been held to the same criteria…… it would be interesting to see who know owns your duplex? and why that decision by the city was not followed through by them? it is how the rot sets in and those that try to obey the rules are paying the price.

  • 9. Brian  |  July 21, 2012 at 6:30 pm

    The events that you are documenting have been going on for years. The “crisis” that is occuring with our housing is a reflection of many other things that has occured in our city.

    Things have gone from bad, to worse. They have never been good at about anything for many years. Cumulitively, things just keep piling up, and at some point it may just IMPLODE.

    If things were to EXPLODE, then the process of rebuilding is simplier and things could move forward, but my belief is that we haven’t seen the real ugly, if things are not bad enough now.

    Everything appears to be in a holding pattern for now because it is all about finding money. TPTB are waiting to see if the residents will support passing the schools levy, our city levy, and the county levies. It is questionable if any of them will pass, but within weeks of the fall elections, things could be collectively much worse.

    The houses that you mention have a common denominator. They are all empty and just putting lipstick on a pig isn’t going to get anyone to decide to move into the vacant housing UNLESS they are on public assistance, poor with no other options, a criminal, sex offender and don’t care about the schools. The next wave of problems are starting to surface as many working class people are leaving their homes, creating more vacancies, and moving to greener pastures.

    With that being said, dealing with vacant housing has as much to do with dealing with the school system and how our city provides the most basic of services to its residents. The BIGGER QUESTION you may consider asking is, “shouldn’t we be holding them ALL accountable”?

    The dilema becomes, who implodes first?

  • 10. Loraine Ritchey  |  July 21, 2012 at 6:46 pm

    I did 🙂 I imploded– and you are 100 percent right……..I am tired of having my happiness and quality of life being decided by those that have no regard for others …… can I do anything NO and Lorain well ” she died aborning” apparently has come back to haunt her ….

    Lisa, skeptical , went to see what Denise was complaining about- her camera caught the truth…. it is there- the dangers to the children apparent ….. and this community should be ashamed of ourselves….. the excuses are given and we smile and say Oh OK they are working at it .or it is the fault of this or that paperwork……
    No – not good enough…….I think we( those effected) should sue – for loss of quality of life and healthy enviroments …. right across the board the enablers, the city, the banks and the businesses of bad landlords………. …..

    a citizens lawsuit naming the everyone who has made this happen- hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm wonder if we can get an attorney to take the case pro bono.or maybe we should act as our own attorney’s -……..

  • 11. Brian  |  July 21, 2012 at 7:40 pm

    im·plode (m-pld)
    v. im·plod·ed, im·plod·ing, im·plodes
    To collapse inward violently.
    1. To cause to collapse inward violently.
    2. To demolish (a building) by causing to collapse inward.


    [in- + (ex)plode.]

  • 12. Loraine Ritchey  |  July 21, 2012 at 8:33 pm

    Yes Brian I am well aware of the definition of “implode” as opposed to explode I have collapsed inwardly. if I collapsed outwardly then I would have some effect on others surrounding me but since I am not having any effect at all I am bearing the brunt inwardly of my collapse 🙂

  • 13. Darla Cuevas  |  July 21, 2012 at 9:15 pm

    mega landlords, all they see is $$$. How can they keep buying houses. And just move people right in, without doing any work. My old duplex 7 years later 1834 E31 st. looks the same 1/2 sided.

  • 14. Renee Dore  |  July 21, 2012 at 9:19 pm

    It’s never a good situation when someone falls on hard times and looses a home or has trouble with renters who do damage to property when the property has good intentions to have a postive outcome with their rental properties. But in many cases here in Lorain many of the landlords have had so many properties they can’t manage all of them properly or keep up with lousy renters and what they do to homes. Plus many of the rentals are very old homes with lots of costly maintenace to begin with. What is so troubling is the homes that have been slums for over 10 to 20 years. I refer back to 138 Washington. That home has been a rental for years and years and it was owned by a well known business man for a very long time until another landlord purchased it. That home has looked lousy for over 3 decades. No new gutters, no updated siding. There are countless homes we can point out all over the city. The landlords were collecting rent for those same amounts of years but instead of putting money into the homes they owned-they just bought more properties. There’s never been a quota for rentals in Lorain-that would have hampered many a businessman to make even more money. Some landlords have done a great job keeping up with their properties and their homes are not the ones we shudder to look at. Then there’s the property owners who live either out of the city, out of the state or out of the country-Pakistan for instance ( that’s what we learned about a rental owner on 9th st.)How can they EVEN begin to care what their places look like as long as they are collecting that rental money. Some have management companies but they don’t seem to be doing jobs in many cases either. It’s so frustating and depressing when so many try to sustain their neighborhoods and it’s for no progress because of what is going on all over the city. I am just venting with everyone else..

  • 15. Loraine Ritchey  |  July 21, 2012 at 9:41 pm

    Ok so the city ( and I pulled up the house on the auditors site) and the sale history was going to fine Darla $1,000 dollars back in 2005-07 and yet from January 2009 Mr. Jerrod Biebrick has owned the property which he purchased for just 12,500 down from the 95,00 Darla paid for it and the siding is still in that condition NOW why hasn’t the city followed through with Mr. Biebrick considering he owns 31 other properties DUH!!!! do we just give it to the little guy and not the “business landlords? Enquiring minds want to know and with Darla’s permission I will ask

  • 16. Darla Cuevas  |  July 21, 2012 at 9:42 pm

    Its good to vent, We all need to do it. I just wish money was right, i want soo bad to buy another house. I would love to buy that house #1 down the hill from my parents. It would nice for my kids when they get older, i could give them a house as a wedding gift.

  • 17. Darla Cuevas  |  July 21, 2012 at 9:45 pm

    Yea its ok, im not that kind of person to call and complain like that.. dont want carma to bite

  • 18. Loraine Ritchey  |  July 21, 2012 at 9:52 pm

    Remember if Karma is the bit-h then mee the bit-h I will take it on and the link to the landlord that purchased your home has turned up some interesting patterns with regard to these business landlords so it has given me me fodder for a post I am going to write in the meantime I am going to ask some “hard questions” 🙂 we will see what the answers are if any?

  • 19. Lisa  |  July 22, 2012 at 12:33 am

    Thanks for the link. Enough is enough. I’m not the first blogger to post pictures like that and I won’t be the last. If that’s what it’s going to take to make people sit up and take notice and do something about it, then so be it.

  • 20. Loraine Ritchey  |  July 22, 2012 at 1:48 am

    I have sent a question as to the siding question a nd what constitutes “siding” with pictures to the Chief Building Inspector, cc to the mayor and various council people let us see what transpires 🙂

  • 21. Darla Cuevas  |  July 22, 2012 at 10:46 pm

    it had wood siding and i started vinel siding

  • 22. Loraine Ritchey  |  July 23, 2012 at 11:14 am

    yes we went and took pictures and I have asked the Building Inspector and cc the maypr what has happened? 🙂

  • 23. Brian  |  July 23, 2012 at 11:35 am

    Fortunately, or unfortunately, not everyone is “landlord” material. There is more to being a “housing provider” than just being able to paint a room and collect rent.

    I know that a “good landlord” SHOULD do background checks before allowing someone to move into their property to see if the tenant has ever been in prison, but sections of Lorain have become their own prisons in themselves.

    Just because a person is poor and receives assistance doen’t automatically make them a bad tenent, but in the same breath, just because a person has a house to rent with a fresh coat of paint doesn’t make them a good landlord.

    Being a Housing Provider is a business and nationally, most start up businesses fail with five years. I had a business at one time, and it failed. It took close to 15 years for it to close down, but in the end, I didn’t have it in me to keep it open. I also had rental properties also in conjuction with my business, and that failed also.

    To be a business person in Lorain takes an extraordinary amount of talant and skill. I believe more so than in most other communities because doing business in Lorain is like doing business in the wild west.

  • 24. Loraine Ritchey  |  July 23, 2012 at 11:56 am

    well it maybe because other businesses are having an impact on Lorain’s business community – Broadway is a prime example but

    let us take the construction business – new construction? well not much of that I shouldn’t think in “old Lorain” or in the Lorain school district even with CRA and TIF incentives ( yes there are CRA incentives here too) because people aren’t moving into my hood unless they are “paid to do so”…… and as for building new. Hey in some parts you can buy a house and lot 12 times cheaper than you can buy a lot in other places.15 times if the lot is in Avon so why aren’t people taking advantage of that

    Why is that…. well the “condition of the neighborhoods and schools and the criminal element scares people away …

    You never see this advertisement

    buy this wonderful historic home , it has lost its porch, no railing, open to the air roof…surrounded by drug dealers, gang bangers and beaurocracy and a plethora of rentals most transient – come enjoy the lifestyle that is old Lorain- and our school system is rated one of the lowest

    and re- hab construction well I shouldn’t imagine there is a lot of that availble to those in the construction business – not the kind that brings in money and is not piece meal ( eg. Doane Building) by the look of the homes and buildings on Broadway NOT being rehabbed ( even though there is a CRA discount for that too) or even being painted… I can’t imagine a construction business could rely on that sort of business in Lorain-

    and what tenant with any respect for themselves or their family would move into one of these homes…..certainly not the kind I have had to put up with …….we are having that issue with a couple of rentals one of my favourite landlords Kent S. has a “group “living in in his apartments sigh that are “spreading” through the neighborhood like flies on poop……

    but the bar is being set in my neighborhood once again by “business landlords” lower and lower and the ” condition of the neighborhoods” are being determined by those who do the ‘minimum ” at the very least and mostly just use the property until it is worthless. It is their business and it is effecting other businesses…….. and other livihoods……..

    and you are right not everyone is cut out to be landlord?

    But I am tired of the manta of Lorain – give me your poor your indigent – your RSO’s ……. .

  • 25. Loraine Ritchey  |  July 23, 2012 at 12:12 pm

    The little brown house next to me foreclosed and now scheduled for demoliton has a series of landlords since I lived here

    1. Ford worker – did nothing lost both houses

    2. 2 Fireman – cosmetic and carpet 1976 and some electrical new roof

    3. sold on to another fireman who did nothing to the little brown house not even painting but when he split the lot and dug up the lines for separate utilites he dug up the sidewalk left us with crazy paving for that sidewalk which in turn has now compromised my side walk

    but the city allowed him to split the lot into two 33 feet lots ..sold the blue house ( the one now being dumped by First Federal) to a homeowner ( foreclosed) rehabbed landlord group for closed

    4 Brown house purchased by another landlord who happend to be a Lorain City Schools principle got his tenant ( 60 year old woman) to paint the outside when she, under a govenment program had new furnace and insulation put in the holes needed to be painted over – minimum paint job

    5. sold to another landlord in the construction business turned a closet into another bedroom …cosmetically painted the walls caulked the basement with bathtub caulk rented to some real winners foreclosed upon and now welllllllllllllllllllll so your are right not everyone is cut out to be landlord

    but isn’t it ironic my taxes were actually paying the salary of 4 of those landlords hmmmmmmmmmmmm and the city enabled them

  • 26. Loraine Ritchey  |  July 23, 2012 at 7:08 pm

    well the b lue house SOLD for 10,000 First Federal lowered the dumping price!!!!!!

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