Do YOU believe??? Punderson Manor- The Haunting Question?

February 28, 2013 at 9:11 pm 9 comments

Ashes to Ashes- dust to dust-
“”Dust thou art, and unto dust thou shalt return” (Genesis 3:19)”

As regular readers will know from the previous post, our little jaunt to Punderson State Park and Punderson Manor was cut short with a family emergency.

You can read all about Punderson Manor and the facilities here”
One of the highlights of our stay was the fact there was a ghost tour scheduled for one of the nights we were staying . Punderson Manor has the reputation of being “haunted”. There have been many documented cases of apparitions etc. in the old part of the hotel- the original manor house.

The park’s namesake died under mysterious circumstances, with one of the more colorful rumors involving his reportedly committing suicide by drifting into the lake in a bathtub, pulling the plug and drowning.”

You can find some of the information about the history of the haunting here

Our trip was because we needed a break ( I needed a break truth be told) and to celebrate my mum’s 94- it was purely a coincidence they were having a “ghost tour”. However, I had taken my camera , made sure it had new batteries to take pictures of the kids in the pool etc. in order to document our stay for the blog and the Lorain Dudes segment .

After a leisurely swim in the pool; we enjoyed an early supper . Gavin “shopped” the gift shop for rubber snakes , sweat shirts and candy, games for himself and Braedyn. Seeing the oldest ( 94 years) and the youngest (1 year) were feeling tired and maybe needed their beds πŸ™‚ Nikki and I decided to join the ” ghost tour” at 8:30 pm.

This aspect of the stay fascinated me, as although only a half a dozen people were actually staying at the hotel – two couples had come especially for the tour and came equipped with cameras etc. – the rest literally had driven through slush, ice and snow ( including people from Lorain County) to attend . There were, by my count, nearly 60 people in attendance .

The tour was hosted by Nick Fischbach– Nick who is the current Mayor of Burton-has a very reputable reputation”

He was the chief ranger for Geauga Park District 1979 until 1989. He served Ohio Department of Natural Resources parks division for nearly 25 years, employed at Punderson State Park in various capacities 1974-1975 and again from 1989 until his recent retirement. Other experiences in law enforcement include service to ODNR, Geauga County Sheriff’s Department and Thompson Township Police Department


Nick, as he asked to be called, recounted the personal experiences that had happened to himself and others during his employment at the park. Nick began his employment in the 1970’s as a huge skeptic of the “super natural” and now gives tours recounting his unexplained occurrences.

We started the tour at the bottom of the staircase where a large glass cabinet holds many pictures of the various people who lived and owned Punderson Manor.

Cleveland Punderson

In and amongst the older black and white photos is a colored photo of the staircase- the lower part of the staircase. The framed photo is of a transparent like figure. The photograph, as I understood it, was taken by a professional photographer doing publicity shots for the park. He couldn’t explain what had happened in this particular shot so sent the negative etc off to the processing company for an explanation- they could not find any “technical reasoning for the shot”. He gave the shot to Punderson and it takes pride of place.

Apparently, according to Nick, a lot of activity centers around the staircase. As Nick was explaining, Nikki and I and another couple were on the fringe of the crowd.

I noticed the one woman using what is called an EVP/EMF meter that started flashing like mad- I asked Nikki to take a photo with my camera – ( I tend, as people know, to point the thing backwards or cut people’s heads off) only she couldn’t –the brand new batteries were dead.

How annoying I thought to myself- how was I going to document Lorain Dudes and Punderson)
As she mentioned our battery problem , the husband of the lady with the EVP/EMF meter also tried to take a photo- no luck –his batteries were dead too. Hmmmm well coincidence maybe the purchase of a bad batch of batteries.
We continued with the tour, immensely enjoying Nick’s presentation, as well as seeing the rooms of the old manor house. Nikki had just two days previously upgraded to a new phone.

Let it be noted I don’t even send text messages ( so I know nothing about smart phones with cameras) I know my phone has a camera option because I must press the wrong thing at times as I get pictures of my ears, video of floors etc.

A feature on this particular phone ( Sam Sung) ( like most I am supposing in my smart phone challenged thinking) shows the shot before you click the photo. Apparently, according to Nikki, she was seeing orb like phenomenon streaking across the screen.

NOTE:I don’t believe we are talking dust particles here- although you can see those too and they tend to float and blow in the drafts – they don’t tend to come through walls and continue on through another with lightning fast “speed“.

Nikki tried to show me ( but I needed my glasses) I just wasn’t quick enough to see what she was talking about. By this time we had lost the tour and were standing at the top of the staircase – Nikki was glued to her phone screen and started talking to the “dust’orbs’ atoms”Oh dear I thought what are the tour people going to think?

There was my daughter – usually perfectly sane matter of factly talking out loud to a phenomenon she caught on a phone screen. Well I thought they might think she is just one of those rude people who talk loudly on their phones.

“I can see you “

she said

come back do it again-

and apparently it did -more than once. Finally I stood behind looking over her shoulder ,glasses and all, to see what she was looking at and then – I too experienced what she was seeing. She started taking pictures but it moved so fast by the time she clicked it was gone. Still talking out loud to the “subject ” saying come back – try over there – she finally caught it

NOTE*****This first photo has not been retouched in any way just resized to fit the blog upload.

NOTE*****This 2nd photo HAS been HDR ENHANCED and of course the arrow added

punorband aroow

Continuing her one-sided conversation she tried to captured the lightning quick “dust?” asking it time and time again to pose she then captured the following picture? NOTE ** the only change made was resizing”


Again I HAVE enhanced the photo with HDR in this 2nd jpg

I have added arrows in this third shot for a couple of reasons you will see the green arrow and what is commonly referred to as an orb and the bluish blur at the bottom (pink arrow)

this blur caught was right by the cabinet holding the famed photo of the apparition on the stairs – you can barely make out a person seemingly looking at the photos ( very difficult to make out but he is casting a shadow so I believe this was one of the tour people who had left the tour.) The bluish blur could possibly be light reflected off the glass but coincidentally at that very exact moment the “stair case photo” fell over the bluish blur is at the exact spot on the cabinet where the photo resides-

Did the “onlooker accidentally nudge the cabinet ? none of the other photos moved, none fell just that one of the many that were in the case.

Finally, the tour came back from the library and Nikki followed Nick and his entourage into the Windsor Suite ( formally the master suite) .
windsor suite

Nick had lost some of the tour by this point but had gained ( according to Nikki’s phone screen) some other intelligentsia πŸ˜‰ . The lady with the EVP was back and it started up again – she and Nikki and her husband were trading occurrences near the bathroom area and a lot started happening with EVP and Nikki’s camera phone .

As they were discussing the happenings, their conversations drew people over to the area- oohs and ahs as they could see what was happening on the phone screen. The tour finished and Nick was called over to look at what was happening on the phone screen and he and others watched as supersonic dust particles came on cue.

I had watched on the phone screen as he was giving his talk, one orb circling up and around him , darting back and forth like a frustrated gnat- it would have been large enough to be seen by the naked eye in reality as in comparison it would have been the same size as a sparrow.

We had to leave bright and early due to the emergency so we were unable to do any more investigating !

Does Punderson have something going on there

I would say yes! IF NOT- they have some of the most intelligent dust and dander particles on the planet!

intelligent dustbunny


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9 Comments Add your own

  • 1. Brian  |  February 28, 2013 at 11:31 pm


  • 2. Mark  |  March 1, 2013 at 1:02 am

    No fair!! You get all the fun with ghosts!!

  • 3. Renee Dore  |  March 1, 2013 at 1:43 am

    A friend of ours shared photos taken at Gettysburg on a ghost walking tour also. There were the same “orbs” in those too-many of them. One time on a different ghost walking tour in Gettysburg when we were there -our camera did not function at certain areas of the tour. The tour guide told us sometimes that happens when spirit activity is nearby. Thanks for sharing your experiences at the Manor!!

  • 4. Rich Robbin  |  March 1, 2013 at 1:46 am

    This was an awesome article. Better reading here than a newspaper!

  • 5. Lisa  |  March 1, 2013 at 9:01 pm

    Good job, Nikki! I don’t know what it is about these Samsung cellphones, but my last 2 have had the ability to capture the most unusual phenomena too. Loraine, you should always carry spare batteries. You know that rule πŸ˜‰

  • 6. Loraine Ritchey  |  March 1, 2013 at 9:03 pm

    well we have lots around here πŸ˜‰ but I didn’t think I would need “back-up” for Punderson πŸ™‚

  • 7. Loraine Ritchey  |  March 1, 2013 at 9:03 pm

    Hey Brian BOO? WHO???? πŸ™‚

  • 8. aka/mozart  |  March 1, 2013 at 11:00 pm

    love a good adventure…many to be had if one is willing to take the journey. My bags have been packed for sometime now πŸ™‚

  • 9. jlynn  |  March 27, 2013 at 1:32 am

    I was just there over halloween weekend last year and experienced activity in the library. Drawers were opening on there own and the room became very cold. While half of our group was in the library the other half was in the hallway by the spiral staircase and one of them told us to be quiet because the front desk and them heard screaming. We explained it wasnt us. I have video to prove there was no screaming. It was a wonderful fun experience especially being that it was the first one. I will be going back again very soon to see if I can see anything on the stairs. πŸ™‚

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