On Broadway-Downtown- the 44052

June 25, 2013 at 1:43 pm 18 comments

UPDATE: From Design Review Board Member Kathy Dye also seen in comments to be fair and balanced πŸ™‚ Note Kathy Dye is the mother of Mr. Dye and one would think proud of the language on his sign by her comments We will be addressing Mrs. Dyes comments

SUCH HATERS, EVERY BUILDING ON BROADWAY HAS ISSUES. WHILE YOU TAKE THIS RUN DOWN BROADWAY I’M GOING TO ALL OF YOUR HOMES. FOR EVERYONES INFORMATION THE LORAIN DESIGN REVIEW BOARD HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE INSIDES OF COMMERCIAL BUILDINGS. IF SO WE WOULD HAVE TO HAVE A DAILY MEETING. AND YES I AM PROUD OF ANYONE WHO TAKES ON THE HURDLES OF BUYING A OLD BUILDING ON BROADWAY AND PUTS THEIR HEARTS AND SOULS INTO REMODELING AND THEN THERE ARE HATERS THAT ARE JEALOUS THAT SOMEONE IS TRYING TO MAKE A DIFFERENCE IN THIS TOWN. I, BEING AN OWNER OF A BUILDING ON BROADWAY SINCE 1987 KNOW HOW HARD IT IS TO REMODEL AND MAINTAIN AN OLD BUILDING. IT IS A CONSTANT DRAIN TO YOUR POCKET. AND SO WHAT IF YOU DON’T LIKE LOWRIDER TRUCKS. THERE ARE MANY PEOPLE WHO DO. WHAT IS YOUR HOBBY? I THINK THERE ARE A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO NEED TO GET A LIFE AND GROW UP.

sky is falling

AHHHHHH Downtown the place to be – the place to be seen , songs have been written about Downtown !
In order to answer my 4- year-old grandson’s question – Is this a bad area mum?

https://thatwoman.wordpress.com/2013/06/21/is-this-a-bad-area-mum-the-44052/

Petula Clark’s version of Downtown

Just listen to the music of the traffic in the city
Linger on the sidewalk where the neon signs are pretty
How can you lose?
The lights are much brighter there
You can forget all your troubles, forget all your cares and go
Downtown, things’ll be great when you’re
Downtown, no finer place for sure,
Downtown, everything’s waiting for you

OUR VERSION OF DOWNTOWN
Let us take a walk along the “city side walks – pretty side walks”

Sidewalks are important to this community they are the place of inspections – Remember this series
https://thatwoman.wordpress.com/2013/02/14/the-cowboys-of-lorain-no-more-shooting-blanks-part-7/

If the reader will go to parts three and four and five in the series you can see what “inspections entail” for residential- I have asked the City of Lorain to explain re commercial building does our “Inspector have to stay on the sidewalk unless invited in along our ‘Buildings on Broadway??? and the answer from Chief Building Inspector Richard Klinar is


Right of entry applies to all structures.”


PDF file of Rights of Entry here

Entry to other structures

HMMMM so as you walk into one of the buildings downtown and maybe enjoy the ground floor – you had better beware as to what lies below your feet, or above your head. You will have to “trust” the owner has kept up the maintenance for the building!

Let us start our walk on the wildside- watch your step – and look at the building featured in the last post – the one with the infamous sign – ( not so pretty- Petula sigh) krisdyefabrication door

Even though it seems inspectors have to stay on the sidewalk to inspect they could have in my opinion taken out their clip boards I am sure even from the sidewalk they could have “checked off ” quite a few violations at 418 Broadway.

NOTE _ WHAT WORRIES ME IS THESE BUILDINGS FOR THE MOST PART ARE ASKING THE PUBLIC TO COME IN TO THESE PLACES OF ‘BUSINESS AND ENTERTAINMENT”- SURELY THERE SHOULD BE SOME REGARD FOR THE HEALTH AND SAFETY OF THE GENERAL PUBLIC-??????

Exterior Inspection Checklist

(These photos taken directly from the Lorain County Auditors Site

418 Broadway Auditors

418 Broadway-purchased 2010 for $20,000 yes that is “Twenty” thousand from Lorain National BankParcel Number: 02-01-004-102-007 – DYE DALE C -418 BROADWAY LORAIN, OH 44052

Mr. Dye who wants to put out his welcome sign – inviting you all in to his “sports bar” – even went so far as to get the OK from the Design review Board in order to do so.
http://www.morningjournal.com/articles/2013/06/12/news/doc51b7f0e2c5647345252854.txt


His goal is to continue restoration of the building exterior and eventually reopen the bar, create a rental party center or rent the bar to an operator. Dye currently has his own machine shop, Kris Dye Fabrication, in the building.”

NOTE: please pay attention to the bolded words in the Morning Journal article!

Photos from the “sidewalk” vantage point –
418 Second Floor South

SC 2nd floor south

418 Second Floor North

SC 2nd floor north

418 Second Floor Middle ceiling

SC 2nd floor middle ceiling

and FINALLY hope this is not where the electricity for the new NEON Sign will be plugged in that light bulb may have an issue with that !

SC 2nd floor middle
Oh and those windows seem to be “missing ” anyone seen them on the sidewalk ?????

Even with “toothless inspections ” we need to look up once in a while as we journey “downtown” and remember people “what is up may come down” hopefully not on you!
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“Is this a bad area mum?” the 44052 Fabricating Broadway- The Dye is set- 418

18 Comments Add your own

  • 1. aka/mozart  |  June 25, 2013 at 2:02 pm

    But he has a really eye catching front door. So what if everything else is crumbling inside. Cant see it from the outside so what’s the problem…Lou Reed said it..

  • 2. Loraine Ritchey  |  June 25, 2013 at 2:44 pm

    You have to wonder IF WE HAD A POINT OF SALE INSPECTION whether Lorain National Bank would have dumped this property for less than you can buy a late model USED CAR!!! and what the building would have been worth had ownership for those years adhered to a Point of Sale????

  • 3. Rich  |  June 25, 2013 at 5:57 pm

    So sad again from what it was when I was a child! Excellent idea…”keep on keep’in on”. As the words of a song go…..

  • 4. kiki  |  June 25, 2013 at 7:34 pm

    What a despicable sign. I bet he really is looking for the best of clientele. How can the city let him open a business looking like that.

  • 5. aka/mozart  |  June 25, 2013 at 7:52 pm

    from what I have heard…the low riders are gonna be thumpin and bumpin in the international parade..how is that heritage? which country are they representing?..the ghetto nation? Each car violating the loud stereo ordinance should be ticketed as soon as that thing leaves the parade route. Ghetto BS…all the way around…wtf!

  • 6. Dennis Lamont  |  June 26, 2013 at 10:25 am

    You are supposed to be focusing on the over two million dollars spent on fancy embossed “paving” on Broadway,not the empty and run down buildings it runs past. Downtown development has been a game of connect the dots that simply doesn’t work. Maybe things will be different if Lorain can convince developers that it’s a whole new era ?????

  • 7. aka/mozart  |  June 26, 2013 at 1:36 pm

    Dennis…not with that kind of neighbor next door…it only breeds more tattoo, headshops, and clubs. The bar has been set so low that even an ant couldn’t get under it.

  • 8. Mark Teleha  |  June 26, 2013 at 5:13 pm

    SUCH HATERS, EVERY BUILDING ON BROADWAY HAS ISSUES.

    No $hit, Mrs. Dye. So let’s take them one by one. And shouldn’t your son be the perfect place to start? Or should he be the perfect example of what’s wrong with this city AND it’s Design Review Board?? Just as bad as the clown that used an upturned handgun in the logo for his business. How about the signs that are still in front of the old post office building? Didn’t I read that those were to be removed, yet still there the last time I drove by?? The color scheme for the Club Copa was permitted for how many years, before it was changed? When will you people get your heads out of your backsides and do what needs done to help this city, specifically its downtown, instead of taking what you can get and turning your head to the infractions?

  • 9. aka/mozart  |  June 26, 2013 at 5:53 pm

    lord have mercy. Went into Lorain Muni Ct…if this is the same Dale Dye that has the low-rider shop…here ya have it….some cases were dismissed, didn’t go thru all of them…but It looks like the ones I did open the balance owed in total of just those are approx. $2,033..that is if muni updates info regularly..which I think they do. Oh mama!!! If this is not the correct person, my apologies.
    Concerning: Dye, Dale
    D.B.A./A.K.A.:
    Filed: 01/03/2013
    Arr. Agency: LPD Case #: CRB1300028
    Docket Entry: Click
    Charge: DISORD CON/PERS
    Case Type: Criminal
    11 Concerning: Dye, Dale Aka
    D.B.A./A.K.A.:
    Filed: 05/18/2010
    Arr. Agency: N/A Case #: CVF1001337
    Docket Entry: Click
    Charge: MONEY ONLY
    Case Type: Civil
    12 Concerning: Dye, Dale C
    D.B.A./A.K.A.:
    Filed: 04/30/2001
    Arr. Agency: LPD Case #: TRD0102684
    Docket Entry: Click
    Charge: STOP SIGN
    Case Type: Traffic
    13 Concerning: Dye, Dale C
    D.B.A./A.K.A.:
    Filed: 12/12/2002
    Arr. Agency: LPD Case #: TRD0208505
    Docket Entry: Click
    Charge: INSUFF. LIGHTS
    Case Type: Traffic
    14 Concerning: Dye, Dale C
    D.B.A./A.K.A.:
    Filed: 08/02/2004
    Arr. Agency: SLPD Case #: CRA0403074
    Docket Entry: Click
    Charge: THEFT OF LIC PL
    Case Type: Criminal
    15 Concerning: Dye, Dale C
    D.B.A./A.K.A.:
    Filed: 08/02/2004
    Arr. Agency: SLPD Case #: CRA0403075
    Docket Entry: Click
    Charge: RSP
    Case Type: Criminal
    16 Concerning: Dye, Dale C
    D.B.A./A.K.A.:
    Filed: 10/25/2004
    Arr. Agency: SLPD Case #: TRC0407911A
    Docket Entry: Click
    Charge: D.U.I.
    Case Type: Traffic
    17 Concerning: Dye, Dale C
    D.B.A./A.K.A.:
    Filed: 10/25/2004
    Arr. Agency: SLPD Case #: TRC0407911B
    Docket Entry: Click
    Charge: LEFT OF CENTER
    Case Type: Traffic
    18 Concerning: Dye, Dale C
    D.B.A./A.K.A.:
    Filed: 07/06/2005
    Arr. Agency: SLPD Case #: CRB0502524
    Docket Entry: Click
    Charge: DOMESTIC VIOLEN
    Case Type: Criminal
    19 Concerning: Dye, Dale C
    D.B.A./A.K.A.:
    Filed: 01/02/2007
    Arr. Agency: SLPD Case #: CRB0700043
    Docket Entry: Click
    Charge: ASSAULT
    Case Type: Criminal
    20 Concerning: Dye, Dale C
    D.B.A./A.K.A.:
    Filed: 03/09/2011
    Arr. Agency: LPD Case #: CRB1100764
    Docket Entry: Click
    Charge: DISORD COND PER
    Case Type: Criminal
    21 Concerning: Dye, Dale C
    D.B.A./A.K.A.:
    Filed: 06/01/2011
    Arr. Agency: LPD Case #: TRD1102802A
    Docket Entry: Click
    Charge: DUS
    Case Type: Traffic
    22 Concerning: Dye, Dale C
    D.B.A./A.K.A.:
    Filed: 06/01/2011
    Arr. Agency: LPD Case #: TRD1102802B
    Docket Entry: Click
    Charge: MOTORIZED BIKE
    Case Type: Traffic
    23 Concerning: Dye, Dale C
    D.B.A./A.K.A.:
    Filed: 02/27/2012
    Arr. Agency: SLPD Case #: CRA1200624A
    Docket Entry: Click
    Charge: ABDUCTION
    Case Type: Criminal
    24 Concerning: Dye, Dale C
    D.B.A./A.K.A.:
    Filed: 05/11/1999
    Arr. Agency: OSP Case #: TRD9902543
    Docket Entry: Click
    Charge: LEFT OF CENTER
    Case Type: Traffic
    25 Concerning: Dye, Dale C
    D.B.A./A.K.A.:
    Filed: 09/14/1999
    Arr. Agency: OSP Case #: TRD9905328
    Docket Entry: Click
    Charge: SEAT BELT
    Case Type: Traffic
    Next –>

    Concerning: Dye, Dale C
    D.B.A./A.K.A.:
    Filed: 02/27/2012
    Arr. Agency: SLPD Case #: CRA1200624B
    Docket Entry: Click
    Charge: ABDUCTION
    Case Type: Criminal
    2 Concerning: Dye, Dale C
    D.B.A./A.K.A.:
    Filed: 02/27/2012
    Arr. Agency: SLPD Case #: CRA1200624C
    Docket Entry: Click
    Charge: ABDUCTION
    Case Type: Criminal
    3 Concerning: Dye, Dale C
    D.B.A./A.K.A.:
    Filed: 02/27/2012
    Arr. Agency: SLPD Case #: CRA1200624D
    Docket Entry: Click
    Charge: ABDUCTION
    Case Type: Criminal
    4 Concerning: Dye, Dale C
    D.B.A./A.K.A.:
    Filed: 02/27/2012
    Arr. Agency: SLPD Case #: CRA1200624E
    Docket Entry: Click
    Charge: ABDUCTION
    Case Type: Criminal
    5 Concerning: Dye, Dale C
    D.B.A./A.K.A.:
    Filed: 02/27/2012
    Arr. Agency: SLPD Case #: CRB1200625A
    Docket Entry: Click
    Charge: UNDERAGE PERSON
    Case Type: Criminal
    6 Concerning: Dye, Dale C
    D.B.A./A.K.A.:
    Filed: 02/27/2012
    Arr. Agency: SLPD Case #: CRB1200625B
    Docket Entry: Click
    Charge: OBSTRU/INSPECT
    Case Type: Criminal
    7 Concerning: Dye, Dale C
    D.B.A./A.K.A.:
    Filed: 02/27/2012
    Arr. Agency: SLPD Case #: CRB1200625C
    Docket Entry: Click
    Charge: OBSTRU/OFFI/BUS
    Case Type: Criminal
    8 Concerning: Dye, Dale C
    D.B.A./A.K.A.:
    Filed: 04/02/2012
    Arr. Agency: LPD Case #: CRB1201055
    Docket Entry: Click
    Charge: DISORDERLY COND
    Case Type: Criminal
    9 Concerning: Dye, Dale C
    D.B.A./A.K.A.:
    Filed: 04/02/2012
    Arr. Agency: SLPD Case #: CRB1201056
    Docket Entry: Click
    Charge: KEEP PLACE/SALE
    Case Type: Criminal
    10 Concerning: Dye, Dale C
    D.B.A./A.K.A.:
    Filed: 07/05/2012
    Arr. Agency: SLPD Case #: CRB1202200
    Docket Entry: Click
    Charge: FALSIFICATION
    Case Type: Criminal
    11 Concerning: Dye, Dale C
    D.B.A./A.K.A.:
    Filed: 07/05/2012
    Arr. Agency: SLPD Case #: CRB1202201A
    Docket Entry: Click
    Charge: WEAPONS INTOX
    Case Type: Criminal
    12 Concerning: Dye, Dale C
    D.B.A./A.K.A.:
    Filed: 07/05/2012
    Arr. Agency: SLPD Case #: CRB1202201B
    Docket Entry: Click
    Charge: OBSTRU/OFFI/BUS
    Case Type: Criminal
    13 Concerning: Dye, Dale C
    D.B.A./A.K.A.:
    Filed:
    Arr. Agency: SLPD Case #: CRB1203555
    Docket Entry: Click
    Charge: CRIM DMG/ENDANG
    Case Type: Criminal
    14 Concerning: Dye, Dale C
    D.B.A./A.K.A.:
    Filed: 10/23/2012
    Arr. Agency: SLPD Case #: CRB1203558
    Docket Entry: Click
    Charge: CRIM. DAMAGES
    Case Type: Criminal
    15 Concerning: Dye, Dale C
    D.B.A./A.K.A.:
    Filed: 11/13/2012
    Arr. Agency: SHF Case #: TRD1207310
    Docket Entry: Click
    Charge: 40/20 SPEED
    Case Type: Traffic
    16 Concerning: Dye, Dale C
    D.B.A./A.K.A.:
    Filed: 11/20/2012
    Arr. Agency: LPD Case #: TRD1207475
    Docket Entry: Click
    Charge: PARKED W/PROHIB
    Case Type: Traffic
    17 Concerning: Dye, Dale C
    D.B.A./A.K.A.:
    Filed: 11/20/2012
    Arr. Agency: LPD Case #: TRD1207478
    Docket Entry: Click
    Charge: PARKED W/PROHIB
    Case Type: Traffic
    18 Concerning: Dye, Dale C
    D.B.A./A.K.A.:
    Filed: 07/27/2012
    Arr. Agency: LPD Case #: TRD1207480
    Docket Entry: Click
    Charge: PARKED W/PROHIB
    Case Type: Traffic
    19 Concerning: Dye, Dale C
    D.B.A./A.K.A.:
    Filed: 11/20/2012
    Arr. Agency: LPD Case #: TRD1207482
    Docket Entry: Click
    Charge: PARKED W/PROHIB
    Case Type: Traffic
    20 Concerning: Dye, Dale C
    D.B.A./A.K.A.:
    Filed: 11/20/2012
    Arr. Agency: LPD Case #: TRD1207484
    Docket Entry: Click
    Charge: PARKED W/PROHIB
    Case Type: Traffic
    21 Concerning: Dye, Dale C
    D.B.A./A.K.A.:
    Filed: 11/20/2012
    Arr. Agency: LPD Case #: TRD1207486
    Docket Entry: Click
    Charge: PARKED W/PROHIB
    Case Type: Traffic
    22 Concerning: Dye, Dale C
    D.B.A./A.K.A.:
    Filed: 11/20/2012
    Arr. Agency: LPD Case #: TRD1207488
    Docket Entry: Click
    Charge: PARKED W/PROHIB
    Case Type: Traffic
    23 Concerning: Dye, Dale C
    D.B.A./A.K.A.:
    Filed: 11/20/2012
    Arr. Agency: LPD Case #: TRD1207489
    Docket Entry: Click
    Charge: PARKED W/PROHIB
    Case Type: Traffic
    24 Concerning: Dye, Dale C
    D.B.A./A.K.A.:
    Filed: 11/20/2012
    Arr. Agency: LPD Case #: TRD1207491
    Docket Entry: Click
    Charge: PARKED W/PROHIB
    Case Type: Traffic
    25 Concerning: Dye, Dale C
    D.B.A./A.K.A.:
    Filed: 01/02/2013
    Arr. Agency: SLPD Case #: CRB1300007
    Docket Entry: Click
    Charge: DOMESTIC VIOL.
    Case Type: Criminal
    Concerning: Dye, Dale C
    D.B.A./A.K.A.:
    Filed: 02/01/2013
    Arr. Agency: LPD Case #: TRD1300502
    Docket Entry: Click
    Charge: PARKING-PROHIB
    Case Type: Traffic
    2 Concerning: Dye, Dale C
    D.B.A./A.K.A.:
    Filed: 02/01/2013
    Arr. Agency: LPD Case #: TRD1300503
    Docket Entry: Click
    Charge: PARKING-PROHIB
    Case Type: Traffic
    3 Concerning: Dye, Dale C
    D.B.A./A.K.A.:
    Filed: 03/26/2013
    Arr. Agency: LPD Case #: TRD1301414
    Docket Entry: Click
    Charge: PARKED W/PROHIB
    Case Type: Traffic
    4 Concerning: Dye, Dale C
    D.B.A./A.K.A.:
    Filed: 06/11/2013
    Arr. Agency: LPD Case #: TRD1303529A
    Docket Entry: Click
    Charge: IMPROP DISP PLT
    Case Type: Traffic
    5 Concerning: Dye, Dale C
    D.B.A./A.K.A.:
    Filed: 06/11/2013
    Arr. Agency: LPD Case #: TRD1303529B
    Docket Entry: Click
    Charge: NO LIGHTED PLTS
    Case Type: Traffic
    6 Concerning: Dye, Dale C.
    D.B.A./A.K.A.:
    Filed: 09/03/1999
    Arr. Agency: N/A Case #: CVH9901664
    Docket Entry: Click
    Charge: APPEAL FROM SUS

  • 10. Loraine Ritchey  |  June 27, 2013 at 4:25 pm

    well quite the record………. looks like he gets ticketed for all those “LOW” riders parked .. but maybe it is cheaper to pay the parking ticket cost of doing business.wonder if you can take that off your taxes as a legitimate expense πŸ˜‰

  • 11. aka/mozart  |  June 27, 2013 at 8:45 pm

    i thought we were going to run out of room for all the case records…good grief…

  • 12. kiki  |  June 27, 2013 at 11:27 pm

    Went. Past. The building yesterday painting and cleanin and cleaning it could n could not see the sig the sign down

  • 13. Loraine Ritchey  |  June 27, 2013 at 11:35 pm

    YUP what a difference a DYE makes πŸ˜‰ even a potted plant outside I noticed the windows were all shut and no more viewing inspections from the street but still the lipstick on the pig syndrome πŸ™‚ but at least something is happening…. πŸ™‚ more on the Do or DYE tomorrow if I get time

  • […] all Mrs. Dye mother of the DYE of 418 Broadway building covered here https://thatwoman.wordpress.com/2013/06/25/on-broadway-downtown-the-44052/ with his and his building’s many issues is also on the Design Review Board of […]

  • […] “https://thatwoman.wordpress.com/2013/06/25/on-broadway-downtown-the-44052/ Now I am sure it was just a coincidence the city conducted block inspections that summer. – well maybe- now I am not so sure πŸ˜‰ However, I am pleased to say those on this block who received citations followed up and the block looks so much better. For the record we received no such citations in 2013. That apparently was not good enough for Mrs. Dye . […]

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