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General (ly) Gillmore- the portraits of men- Part 7

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Part One https://thatwoman.wordpress.com/2014/09/05/general-quincy-a-gillmore-the-dining-room-dilemna/

Part Two https://thatwoman.wordpress.com/2014/09/08/general-ly-gillmore-lorain-the-early-years/

Part Three https://thatwoman.wordpress.com/2014/09/13/generally-gillmore-lorain-the-early-years-pt-3/

Part Four https://thatwoman.wordpress.com/2014/09/17/generally-gillmore-lorain-part-4/

Part Five https://thatwoman.wordpress.com/2014/09/23/general-ly-gillmore-lorain-civil-war-part-5/

Part Six https://thatwoman.wordpress.com/2014/09/26/general-lygillmore-recogniton-lorain-pt-6/

I feel all at sea when it comes to deciphering the Gillmores, Peggy left clues and enough information to tantalize but then?????????

In part five I questioned the identity as to the man on the far right as indeed being our General Quincy Adams Gillmore-

Gillmore Family

I am still hoping to find out for sure. Looking at the man to the left – the man designated as Cornelius Reid Gillmore – Quartus’s son -the resemblance to Quartus’s brother Alanson is uncanny- my thoughts are is this just an extremely strong family resemblance between uncle (Alanson) and nephew or could this be Quartus brother ( 15 years his junior) – does this look to be the photo of a 20 year old- Cornelius Reid???? more questions than answers – hints and then nothing!

alanson gilmore old
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Alanson

Alanson Gillmore’s Obituary February 1895 from the original newspaper cutting from Peggy’s file Click on to enlarge
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You can find more information and another obituary here
http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=66881156
Alanson, however had a son Simon A Gillmore – it was his lovely little house that I first saw across from the park ( which I now know was donated by General Gilmore’s sister Sophia Gillmore Leslie to the city of Lorain) and what is now the Antlers “parking lot” when I came, as a bride myself, to Lorain. I remember thinking how pretty the house was only to see it was torn down weeks later
simon houseres In the same faded envelope another photo of a another home. Was this the home on the corner owned by the Gillmores that is now where the Antlers Hotel apartment building stands or possibly the house next to that another of the Gilmores (124)? Who are the people on this front porch, the lady in the rocking chair, the man on the steps and the rather dapper young lady at the rail? What did they do who were they? We will probably never know- there is no writing- as there is on the back of the Simon Gillmore House- stating what it is and where.
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other gillmores1 But what we do know of Simon Gillmore, who owned that pretty house I so liked across from the park his Aunt Sophia donated to the city, was married to a Celia Frances Chapman aka Celia F Gillmore .

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Simon was a ship’s captain and sailed the Great Lakes . He received his Masters certificate for steam – 1st of May 1897Simon's pilot license
http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GSln=Gillmore&GSiman=1&GScid=40715&GRid=64519308&

And so we have Generals, ship builders, and captains all eking a living out of this village / town Black River/ Charleston/Lorain.

Much wheeling and dealing had gone on in this community – from Page 213 of Lorain County History It seems Quartus Gillmore tried his hand at land speculation and sold off swathes of it . The land speculation, due to the fact the canal and railroad would be located here, found John S Reid and Quartus selling off the land … From Page 213 of The History of Lorain County

. General Quincy Adams Gillmore, would have been around 11 or 12 when the Ohio Railroad scheme fell through. Can imagine the euphoria in the farm house ( now Lakeview Park) as the word of riches and easier times were discussed around the dinner table and the let down when it all went bust. But that didn’t stop the Gillmores they continued to add to this community and a young man named Quincy Adams Gillmore entered West Point just 8 years later at the age of 20.

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To Be Continued

September 30, 2014 at 12:04 am Leave a comment

General (ly)Gillmore- Recogniton Lorain? Pt 6

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Part One https://thatwoman.wordpress.com/2014/09/05/general-quincy-a-gillmore-the-dining-room-dilemna/

Part Two https://thatwoman.wordpress.com/2014/09/08/general-ly-gillmore-lorain-the-early-years/

Part Three https://thatwoman.wordpress.com/2014/09/13/generally-gillmore-lorain-the-early-years-pt-3/

Part Four https://thatwoman.wordpress.com/2014/09/17/generally-gillmore-lorain-part-4/

Part Five https://thatwoman.wordpress.com/2014/09/23/general-ly-gillmore-lorain-civil-war-part-5/

I had promised the last of the Lorain Gillmores- Peggy I would one day write about her illustrious family for the www. In 2007 Peggy joined us in the Bicentennial Celebration of the founding of this settlement which eventually became Lorain.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/12219598@N06/

Peggy posed with the “reenactor” of her famous relative “General Quincy Adams Gillmore”

Peggy Gillmore 2007

Peggy Gillmore 2007

Speaking with Peggy over the years , I know, she felt perturbed the home town of General Quincy Gillmore did very little to recognize his contribution to this nation and also the fact her family was barely recognized, except by a few, as to their contribution to bringing Lorain into being.

There is no plaque in the the oldest park,now known as Veterans Park
https://thatwoman.wordpress.com/2013/08/02/veterans-memorial-park-fini/
from whence sprung a community recognizing the founding fathers or its importance to the history of this community.

Durand Map 1834

Durand Map 1834

“(Lorain) content(s) itself with the scant available records of this period, preceding the 16th day of July 1834, when a tiny map somewhat crude according to present day standards (1926) was presented to the county recorder for public record “
This was the Durand Map of May 10th 1834

Mr. Meyer refers to this as “our corporate birth certificate”
On July 2nd 1834 Conrad and Abigail Reid, Daniel and Sophia Baldwin, Quartus and Elizabeth Gilmore, Barna Meeker and Ann Meeker appeared before Frederick Whittlesesy (Justice of the Peace) and acknowledge the map to be a true plat of the town.

PDF File of the Lorain In Retrospect by Jacob Meyer 1926

162. Lorain in Retrospect by Jacob Meyer

Lakeview Park has a plaque – a replacement –
Gilmour Tablet
Photo Dan Brady

http://danielebrady.blogspot.com/2014/03/general-quincy-adams-gillmore.html

Gillmore was honored by his hometown on April 27, 1922 – the one-hundredth-birthday anniversary of General U. S. Grant. The Nathan Perry Chapter, Daughters of the American Revolution planted a memorial tree and dedicated a plaque in Lakeview Park in Lorain, near the site of the house in which Gillmore was born.

The plaque, which was placed on a large boulder, read, “This tree is planted and this boulder erected in memory of Quincy A. Gillmore, major-general in the Union army, war of 1861-65. Dedicated by Nathan Perry Chapter, Daughters of the American Revolution.”

The replacement tablet in Lakeview Park

Sadly, the original plaque was later stolen. It was replaced in recent years with a replica plaque with slightly different wording, and the “new” monument was relocated to a special area in the park designed for historical markers.

Of all the 1,000 acres deeded to the Gillmore family in 1811/1812 the only parcel left still in the Gillmore family was the home of Peggy Gillmore, on the corner of 4th and Oberlin. This little house built with pride and loving care has held the memories of the Gillmores. 403 Oberlin (2)
Original photo 403 Oberlin Ave. from the artifacts from Peggy

It is a testament to Peggy’s remaining family the house this spring and summer the home has been re painted landscaped and re roofed – The lovely side porch (4th street side), added at a later date- a place where Peggy loved to sit of an evening once again fly’s the flag she loved so much.
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In amongst the family portraits, bibles and books – an old map hand drawn in pencil. The map, fading and barely readable now, (of an unspecified date) shows the neighbors of the time referred to as Little John Brown” – One Arm John Brown residing where the old Irving School, now Constellation Charter School, now stands.

The property of Barna Meeker, Baldwin, NB Gates who wrote of the great railroad scandal of the 1836-38 where Charleston Village “died a borning”
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The Elyria Republican (N.B. Gates) states that in 1836 State Engineer Dodge came in from Coshocton “As the engineers came down real estate went up …. All the Black River clerical force was again employed writing land contracts…. We all dabbled in city lots more or less, and nearly everybody in Black River and a good many in Elyria got rich – on paper- in a very short time. H.C Stevens claimed to be worth half a million- in fact we were all rich”
And then the bottom fell out

The Ohio Railroad scheme resulted in total failure for this community. Such was the shame attached to such speculation that the people wished to revert back to the name of Black River and to thereby blot from record and memory the event.
Major Hammond wrote in the Black River Commercial “It (Charleston) died without a struggle. Its hotels were practically closed, its merchants departed, its warehouse were almost given away to farmers for barns and fences, and even its corporate organization was abandoned; its name blotted out by common consent, and its memory placed in the category of western paper city failures”

Their buildings and properties handwritten on a map that is quickly disintegrating .

Handwritten Gillmore Map date unknown

Handwritten Gillmore Map date unknown

And so my dilemma continues…. the map should be preserved, the portrait of General Gillmore still watches me from the dining room, the family geneology bears testament to a family of “founders” , and then the print from 1890 –
The 54th Massachusetts

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Among the troops who assaulted Ft. Wagner was the 54th Massachusetts, a regiment of African-Americans led (as required by regulation) by white commissioned officers. Gillmore had ordered that his forces be integrated and that African-Americans were not to be assigned menial tasks only, such as KP or latrine duty, but instead they were to carry arms into battle. They and their assault on Ft. Wagner were the subject of the 1989 Civil War movie Glory, which starred Morgan Freeman and Matthew Broderick.

to be explored further in Part 7.

But if Lorain does not appreciate the Gillmore connection maybe a home outside Lorain??? Part One https://thatwoman.wordpress.com/2014/09/05/general-quincy-a-gillmore-the-dining-room-dilemna/

TO BE CONTINUED Thanks to Matt Weisman, Dan Brady, Renee Dore for their help in this series.

September 26, 2014 at 3:56 pm 2 comments

General (ly) Gillmore – Lorain- Civil War – Part 5

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Part One https://thatwoman.wordpress.com/2014/09/05/general-quincy-a-gillmore-the-dining-room-dilemna/

Part Twohttps://thatwoman.wordpress.com/2014/09/08/general-ly-gillmore-lorain-the-early-years/

Part Three
https://thatwoman.wordpress.com/2014/09/13/generally-gillmore-lorain-the-early-years-pt-3/

Part Four https://thatwoman.wordpress.com/2014/09/17/generally-gillmore-lorain-part-4/
Quartus Gillmore came with his father from Mass. to clear and work the 1,000 acres .

Quartus sons He had 4 sons and 4 daughters

Below is a photo of Quartus Gillmore and Elizabeth Reid. ( center) ( courtesy of Matt Weisman)
Gillmore Family

The photo was purchased by Matt Weisman as a photo of Quartus and his family as stated with the text here :

Seller Notes: “Huge Vintage One Of A Kind Photo”
Original/Reprint: Original Print Photo Type: Huge Albumen
Listed By: Dealer or Reseller Subject: Quincy AdamsGilmore,Parents,Brother,AustrianKnight
Date of Creation: 1861 Region of Origin: US
Huge Old Photo The person seated at the lower right is Brigadier General Quincy Adams Gillmore (1825-1888). My guess is that the two people seated in the center front are Quartus Gillmore (1790-1869) and his wife Elizabeth Reid Gilmore (1797-1876)…..the parents of Brigadier General Quincy Adams Gillmore. My guess is that the person seated lower left is Cornelius Reid Gillmore (1841-1911)..the brother of Brigadier General Quincy Adams Gillmore. My guess is that the person standing furthest to the left is Ann Fitzgerald Gillmore (1840-1914) …the wife of Cornelius Reid Gillmore. —————– I believe that the photo album that this pic came from belonged to Cornelius Reid Gillmore. His is the pic in the album (not included) that is in the number 1 position. A pic in the number 3 position in the album is for certain Brigadier General Quincy Adams Gillmore. That pic is in a separate listing. Notice how the women behind Cornelius is close to him and has her hand on him as if she is his wife…an affectionate touching it really looks like…. Then notice how the women behind Quincy Adams is sort of further back and the hand is on him like she is feeling sorry for him in terms of Quincy losing his wife in 1861. I believe this pic was taken in the early to mid 1860s.Probably 1861. The Album which this photo came from included many cabinet photos of the people in this photo later in life. One of those cabinet photos was Quincy Adams Gillmore. Right smack in the middle of some of the other cabinet photos of people in this huge photo. Another Tell is look at the hair of Quartus and look at the hair around the ear of Quincy in the other listing of him as a Brigadier General. (if the other listing is up) The hair is sort of wavy around the ears of both of them.

**** ED. NOTE
This is, as stated, “guess work” by the seller- personally I have a reasonable doubt as to the person said to be General Gillmore is our General- however, I would love to have the people here confirmed as to their identity .

None the less General Quincy Adams Gillmore was the son of Quartus and Elizabeth and was born on the family farm – now known as Lakeview Park.

Matt Weisman

Matt Weisman

There are a great many stories and accounts of General Gillmore “some” of which can be found here
http://www.civilwar.org/education/history/biographies/quincy-gillmore.html
http://www.ohiohistorycentral.org/w/Quincy_Gillmore
http://www.dtic.mil/get-tr-doc/pdf?AD=ADA546281
http://www.battleofolustee.org/reports/gillmore1.htm

and Matt Weisman local historian, researcher has presentations available on the fame and life of General Quincy Adams Gillmore .
You can reach Matt and read about the presentation in the document link that follows:

Local History Presentations by Matthew Weisman

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There is a lot more to Quincy Adams Gillmore- a young man who authored a poem at West Point in 1846 titled Erie ( now for sale on E-Bay for $6,500 dollars ) http://www.ebay.com/itm/Original-1846-West-Point-Cadet-Poem-Titled-Erie-by-Quincy-Adams-Gillmore-

But I want to go back to recent history – that of the gathering in my dining room- as we salivated like kids in a candy store over the artifacts from Peggy.

https://thatwoman.wordpress.com/2014/04/28/history-mystery-lives-of-lorain-gillmore/

Of course there were the photos and history of the Gillmores and the pride they felt for their famous Civil War General. This was evidenced by an old print found tightly rolled in a cardboard tube –

COPY RIGHT 1890 STORMING OF FORT WAGNER – “CHARGE OF THE 54 MASS(COL) RGT JULY 18TH 1863- (UNION) GENERAL GILLMORE

Unfortunately, the whole print would not fit in my scanner but here is a jpg of the 1890 print .
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http://www.gilderlehrman.org/collections/1341afdb-9ee3-4c39-819c-400444799327

The finding of this print sent us off on the little known “glory” of the General……….
https://sites.google.com/a/w-csd.org/civil-war/pop-culture/artwork/storming-fort-wagner

To be continued

September 23, 2014 at 12:05 pm 1 comment

George Schneider- A property Legacy- WHAT NOW?????

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George Schneider , a relatively young man, passed away in his home, one of the hundreds he owned in Lorain and Elyria.

http://chronicle.northcoastnow.com/2014/09/21/lorain-elyria-landlord-dies-51/

He was , according to Kent Sutton during a recent discussion with me
https://thatwoman.wordpress.com/2014/08/26/the-time-has-come-the-walrus-said-lorain/

“really nice guy”

. Friends have extolled his virtues and contributions to the German culture .

http://www.morningjournal.com/general-news/20140919/lorain-businessman-george-schneider-dies-at-51

I never personally met George . I only know George from my neighborhood through his properties, which leave a lot to be desired. I have written about George extensively over the years – Go to the search box in the right hand corner of this page and type in George Schneider.

George has left Lorain a legacy, a legacy of properties that are for the most part in poor shape.
http://chronicle.northcoastnow.com/2013/07/07/cracking-the-code-lorain-landlord-leads-in-violations-supports-citys-anti-blight-efforts/

http://chronicle.northcoastnow.com/2013/07/08/lorain-council-to-discuss-mandatory-pre-sale-housing-inspections/

http://chronicle.northcoastnow.com/2013/07/08/lorain-council-to-discuss-mandatory-pre-sale-housing-inspections/

http://chronicle.northcoastnow.com/2014/05/22/elyria-property-owner-reach-agreement/
http://chronicle.northcoastnow.com/2014/05/27/back-back-fires-keep-crews-busy/

George’s unexpected passing reminds us of the death of Lewis Strnad .

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I did have occasion to meet with Lew Strnad
http://chronicle.northcoastnow.com/2010/12/29/lewis-strnad-2/
when I was the volunteer Mainstreet Lorain Director, on occasion. He too, seemed like a nice guy. However, he was also a multi property owner and we are STILL dealing with his legacy. He is STILL listed on the Lorain County Auditors Site as the owner of over 30 properties 4 YEARS after his death.

Strnad

One property 138 Washington , a historical property , being Mayor King’s House – I have written about the frustration of getting the garbage picked up etc of this house – which is due to now be demolished –
http://www.morningjournal.com/general-news/20131031/lorain-properties-declared-nuisances-by-demolition-board

Finally, after weeks of emails etc.and contact with the city just to remove the trash bags from the outside.

Sent: Friday, May 10, 2013 12:46 PM
Subject: Re: Permission Washington Avenue
On behalf of the estate you have permission to access the property described below for the purposes described below without any liability upon the estate for anything whatsoever.
Shia N. Shapiro
Attorney for the estate of Lewis Strnad.

The issue to me now becomes WHO IS ACCOUNTABLE NOW THE OWNER IS DECEASED. To even get permission for volunteers to go on the property to take away the trash away from 138, Washington , owned by Mr. Strnad’s estate took letters,lawyers and weeks. And still the issues continue.

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This house, situated on lot #76 of the original Charleston Village Plat, may date to the decade of the 1860’s ( possibly earlier) It appears on an 1874 map of Charleston Village by R.H. Penfield. The middle section of lot #76 ( on which this house stands) was sold in 1858 and again in 1861 to Julia Porter ( Grantor Julia D Root)

In 1874, Porter sold the property to Henry J. King, a salt water sailor and farmer who immigrated from England at the age of 25. This property remained in the King Family (ED NOTE- Not the King family of Admiral Ernest J King renown) with out-side ownership 1876-1882.

FRANK JOSEPH KING, son of Henry King lived in this house possibly as early as 1876 ( documented from 1891) and remained there until ca 1915.
F.J. KING was elected mayor of Lorain in 1902 and was one of only two Lorain mayors ( ED Note at the time of the survey in 1993) to suceed himself in office. He did so twice and served until 1912

Now Mr. Strnad’s properties were a fraction of the hundreds that George owns and some ,in my opinion, deployable condition. WHAT NOW ?????
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GEORGE HAS LEFT LORAIN A LEGACY and I have a feeling a myriad of legal problems as to who will step in the take accountability for these properties. Maybe his business partners

https://thatwoman.wordpress.com/2013/07/07/st-george-schneider-and-the-blarney-lela/
or Lake Erie Landlords Association will step in. Somehow I think George’s Legacy to Lorain is going to be ongoing and frustrating, just as Lew Strnad’s continues to be.

NOTE this research was as of : May 27th 2014 – and can be found in the post
https://thatwoman.wordpress.com/2014/05/27/george-schneider-devalued-lorain/

PROPERTY OWNERS AND NUMBER OF PROPERTIES OWNED

GEORGE SCHNEIDER = (Under his own name) = 164
Also
G AND S PROPERTIES = (INCLUDING Jay Metals 1965 E 28th) 3

Also a
GNS PROPERTIES = 1
GEORGE (misspelled ) SCHNEIDER= 6
Also affiliated with
reds
REDS ALL AMERICAN RECYCLING = ( David Carter) = 52
DAVID CARTER= 12

Also affiliated with

FGSK PROPERTIES (inc Gustav AND Anna Krause) = 19
GUSTAV KRAUSE = 12
ANNA KRAUSE = 6
TOTAL PROPERTIES FOR THIS GROUPING = 275

September 20, 2014 at 1:59 pm 14 comments

General(ly) Gillmore- Lorain- Part 4

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Part One https://thatwoman.wordpress.com/2014/09/05/general-quincy-a-gillmore-the-dining-room-dilemna/

Part Twohttps://thatwoman.wordpress.com/2014/09/08/general-ly-gillmore-lorain-the-early-years/

Part Three
https://thatwoman.wordpress.com/2014/09/13/generally-gillmore-lorain-the-early-years-pt-3/

Bann Valley
The Gillmores came over the ocean 1718 ( see part three )as part of the Scotch- Irish migration in 1718 NOTE: this should not be confused with the potato famine migration. The founder of our own Lorain Gilmores, ROBERT(b- 1670), was from Coleraine, Londonderry County , Ulster, Ireland the history of these Scotch- Irish is fascinating and can be found on line here

https://archive.org/details/scotchirish00boltrich
Scotch Irish Pioneers in Ulster and America by Charles Knowles Bolton 1910
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An ocean voyage was not to be taken lightly in those times it was a horrendous undertaking- also having to prove you would not be a burden on the community in this case BOSTON – You had to be self supporting back in 1718.
BostonShips1620
http://www.doak.ws/the_voyage_to_america.htm

“When the migrations from Ireland started in 1714, vessels of all kinds were pressed into service for carrying passengers. Often times, 300 people were packed into a ship and assigned tiny cots lined up side by side to make maximum use of space. Extra floors were often installed so that more cots and hammocks could be setup to handle more people. The head room that resulted was barely enough to allow one to creep in a stooped position to an assigned cot. Men, women and children were all crammed together. Exercise room was very limited. Food was eaten “in place” with no dining rooms available. Food after the first week was moldy and sour. Water became foul and undrinkable. Disease was all too often present with disastrous results. Death at sea was a common occurrence – as was child-birth.

People dying at sea where just thrown overboard because there was no way to preserve bodies long enough to reach shore. One considering a sea journey had to look beyond just the comfort aspects of the trip – there was a very real chance that one would not arrive at all. Storms were an all too often occurrence as there was no way to predict the weather. Ships were often blown off course to arrive weeks late and to be forced into ports far from their original destination. Pirates were very common, operating without hindrance off the American coast during the first half of the 1700’s.”

The Gilmores( Gillmores) ended up in Nutfield / Londonderry, New Hampshire http://www.londonderryhistory.org/townhist and acquired land – Robert some 70 acres and his son William (b 1686) apparently two shares- and a 50 acre farm, he was also appointed as one of the surveyors of highways- he had by 1753 amassed a princely worth of 2,299.10 LSD (pounds) about 200,000 dollars in today’s money.

James Gilmore(b-1728) ( son of William) left New Hampshire in about 1768 and ended up in Massachusetts, There is some confusion as to place names and where was what due to annexation and name changes . However it seems James’son Edmund (b-1763) exchanged the farm of 200 acres for the 1000 acres in what is now Lorain, Ohio .

the land

As I drove to my daughter’s the other day, entering West Erie Avenue from Washington Ave and Veterans Park , past the homes, along the shore, past Lakeview Park, past the Elyria Water Plant, I thought of Peggy’s family, Edmund and his son Quartus Gillmore, who had “owned all of this land “ just 200 years ago. How they had built that first cabin in what would have been totally virgin forest.

Imagine the darkness, no light coming from any sort of street lamps, no road just a cart track, huge trees – their leaves blocking the only light- that of the moon. Night time would find them in total darkness, an inky blackness with only the crashing waves on the shore for company. Their meager light from the fire candles and oil lanterns . In summer the stifling heat that can come with humidity draining the life from one. They must have blessed the breeze from Lake Erie as they toiled in summer heat. The women having to keep the cook fires alight in such a climate.

As the autumn nights closed in and winter winds howled, no snow plows, struggling through Ohio snows to feed the stock, bring in feed and water.
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Quartus (b 1790), Edmund’s son – 22 years old or so taking what implements they had carried with them to “clear the land and build a cabin” where the Easter Basket now stands. You have to wonder why that particular spot to build their first cabin. My thinking is it was probably in the middle of the tract of land they owned the 1,000 acres hugging the lake shore from what is now Washington Ave to nearly the underpass ( according to Peggy).

They built close to the lake and beach but protected from the lake’s wrath and waves by the drop off to the lake and beach. The lake and harbor was and still is a means of transportation so it made sense, to me at least. And, there is that old story ( every time there is flooding in Lorain) as to the streams and small rivers that are in this community (now filled in). I know there is one by my house

1880 Map  showing stream

1880 Map showing stream

There was supposedly, and I have seen it on an old topographical map, of yet another stream apparently running out of the ground by the now tennis courts on North Lakeview Park and down to the lake. It would make sense to build near a water source as taking the trek to the lake before any wells were dug would have been difficult, having a flowing stream or brook nearby would have been a bonus and also likely place to build.

Of course, this family were not unused to hardships , apart from the traveling across the Atlantic in appalling conditions, they had, by my research, cleared , farmed and prospered in the wilderness for 90 ninety years Gr. Grandfather, Grandfather, Father and son alike . They had various talents, they would know about the weaving and manufacturing of cloth ( the fulling mill Londonderry) – the family were heavily involved in fishing back in Ireland ( as was most of the community who ended up in Nutfieled) and what was needed to eke out a community and be self sufficient. William, a wheelright, also a surveyor, they were farmers, had family experience with not only starting a community from nothing but wilderness and could survey land and roadway and it seems not unused to “starting a community” within the laws of this fledgling nation /.

And they did so here in Lorain.

It is written that Edmund ( the elder) father of Quartus( b-1790) was said to be about 6 foot tall . stocky build high prominent cheekbones. deep set eyes, thick head of hair large mouth , high upper lip – No beard on the upper lip but a beard on the lower jaw . He apparently passed his days here in what is now Lorain in cultivation of his land and is recorded in 1844 as owning land both in Amherst and Black River . Edmund died in 1846 but he lived to see this settlement become a town plat in 1834

artwork Chris Ritchey

artwork Chris Ritchey

To Be Continued ……….

September 17, 2014 at 1:17 pm 3 comments

General(ly) Gillmore – Lorain the early years- Pt. 3

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Part One https://thatwoman.wordpress.com/2014/09/05/general-quincy-a-gillmore-the-dining-room-dilemna/

Part Two https://thatwoman.wordpress.com/2014/09/08/general-ly-gillmore-lorain-the-early-years/

As I research further and further with old maps etc. I realized just how much the Gillmores owned in this settlement – 1,000 acres was huge . The family cleared land whilst keeping a wary eye out for the Indians and the British. They cut their paths through from their “homesteads, cabins, dwellings” through the forests to trade at a trading post on the other side of the river or to the little community growing up next to the port.
monument-by-river
http://danielebrady.blogspot.com/2012/08/that-lorain-monument-by-river.html

How terribly hard this must have been even on good weather days. I cannot begin to imagine how hard the life was for those that came after the Revolutionary War leaving what amounted to the “civilized society of those times” to eke out a whole new beginning but this family was no stranger to new beginnings. .
According to the “Gillmore Genealogy” written by
Mr. Claude Charles Hamel Amherst Ohio- revised 1954)

The Gillmores (Gilmore) descended from Robert and Mary Ann (Kennedy) Gilmore who came to America August 4th 1718 as part of the Scotch- Irish contingency ( Presbyterians ).

The Scotch-Irish were Presbyterians. They had splintered away from the official English church. In 1688 the ascension of William to the English throne brought relative peace to Ireland. The Scotch-Irish were allowed to practice their religion, but were required to pay the church of England 10% of everything they produced. The land they lived on and worked was only leased to them by the crown – they could be evicted at any time.

https://mikenh.wordpress.com/tag/ulster-scots/

They arrived on the Brigantine ROBERT to the port of Boston- there was an outbreak of smallpox on board and they may have wintered in Boston. http://www.lynx2ulster.com/ScotchIrishPioneers/008.php . They ( the Scotch- Irish) petitioned the New World

Boyd

Source http://www.1718migration.org.uk/siteFiles/resources/pdf/petition.pdf

In the Spring of 1718, a body of Scotch-Irish from Northern Ireland sent a petition, signed by 319 representative men on 26 March 1718(1), to Governor Shute of Massachusetts Bay in the New World requesting land for settlement.

http://wjmontgomeryfamilytree.homestead.com/IrishImmigrationWilliamandMary.html

“We whose names are underwritten, Inhabitants of ye North of Ireland, Doe in our own names, and in the names of many others, our Neighbors, Gentlemen, Ministers, Farmers, and Tradesmen, Commissionate and appoint our trusty and well beloved friend, the Reverend Mr. William Boyd, of Macasky, to His Excellency, the Right Honorable Collonel Samuel Suitte, Governour of New England, and to assure His Excellency of our sincere and hearty Inclination to Transport ourselves to that very excellant and renowned Plantation upon our obtaining from His Excellency suitable incouragement. And further to act and Doe in our Names as his prudence shall direct. Given under our hands this 26th day of March, Anno Dom. 1718.”

sign nutfiled
SOURCE: https://mikenh.wordpress.com/tag/ulster-scots/
Robert arrived in Nutfield ( now Londonderry New Hampshire) – at an early date the eastern half of David Cargill deeded a lot of 70 acres to Robert Gillmore for the site of a fulling mill

Fulling Mill ( cloth)

Fulling Mill ( cloth)

This lot was north of his son’s Williams lot in the same range and near Beaver Pond. His son was one of the original proprietors of Londonderry NH with two shares

Robert had a son William born around 1686 in Ulster Ireland – 1753 Londonderry NH. William in turn had a son

Ruggles Woodbridge

Ruggles Woodbridge


James Gillmore, born in 1728 was the father of Edmund Gillmore Sept 28th 1765 the same Edmund who arrived in 1811/12 in to what is now known as Lorain .
James did serve in the Revolutionary War at the age of 49 he marched with Lieut. Col. Ruggles Woodbridge albeit for 6 days but obviously felt strongly enough to sign up and answer the call:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Woodbridge’s_Regiment_of_Militia

“They came to America, not as discoverers,
but as the pioneers of their race ; they defended the
frontiers against Indians, and their numbers in the
South so much augmented the forces in the Revolu-
tionary army that they may fairly be said to have
saved Washington from defeat.”

https://archive.org/stream/scotchirish00boltrich/scotchirish00boltrich_djvu.txt

Edmund, reached what is now known as Lorain, claimed his land and built a log cabin- after the home was ready he left his son Aretus, in charge and returned to Massachusetts for the rest of his family returning with them by ox team in June of 1812.

The first election for township officers was held in the home of Justice of the Peace John S Reid on April 17th 1817 Edmund was one of the two judges of the Election. Edmund was also elected one of the two Overseers of the Poor . Also the first school was opened in an unoccupied cabin belonging to Edmund Gillmore – Schools were then maintained by private subscription , as the state had no general education until 1825.

The third school : 4th Street
4th street school

During 1853, a two-story frame building was constructed on Fourth Street. This was the only schoolhouse within the limits of the town until 1870 when a four-room, two-story brick building was completed. The cost of this building, which later became a part of the high school, was fifteen thousand dollars. The building site had been purchased for an additional two thousand dollars.

They lived on this farm for the rest of their lives………………..

TO BE CONTINUED….

September 13, 2014 at 4:37 pm 5 comments

September 11th- the Memory and the Terror -2014

Photo Mark Teleha

Photo Mark Teleha


Since I cannot bring myself to use the visuals of what is still happening in Syria and Iraq – I have chosen Mark’s photo as yet another wave breaks upon our shore.

NOTE: We are now at the 13th Anniversary of September 11th – and still we are in fear and loathing of those that try to strike terror in the hearts of ordinary folk. Beheadings, torture, rapes and whole societies wiped out and today- September 11th we remember the day the terror came home to the USA! I wrote the following on the 10th anniversary, reprising once again as we take yet another step in the horror which the world of fanatical religions dictating our lives.


design by Chris Ritchey

10 years it is unbelievable to me a decade has passed – the sights and sounds of that day so vivid still- an act which will send the perpetrators to perdition.

Normally I would write an updated remembrance but I am in my own kind of man-made purgatory at the moment so I choose to remember as I did last year (below) . I also remember 9-11-09 …. the day of hope as Chris took his first infusion of SGN 35…… that September 11th dawning with hope just as years before a glorious September morn saw hope crashing to the earth…… the outcome was the same “grief and loss”………..a time to remember those that continue to give their lives ………………………….


Loose Change Poster – design by Chris Ritchey

‘Kind” -having or showing a tender and considerate and helpful nature

There was no “kindness” in the nature of that September day as terror flew into the everyday working lives of those who experienced the dreadful destruction of September 11th 2001

They say you remember where you were and what you were doing until you die certain events-

September 3rd- 1939

Dec. 7th – 1941

November 22-1963

And September 11th 2001.

ED NOTE:The linked video is from ordinary citizens with a view of the destruction- released 5 years after that September 11th day

I was sitting on the couch that morning, having my first cup of tea- my son- in -law to be called

“We are being attacked”

Knowing his penchant for practical jokes and phone calls I said

yeah yeah right- tell me more”

Just then my daughter came down the stairs with the phone in her hand , hair dripping wet –

Mum he is right a plane just flew into a building in New York – turn on the television.

Another call beeped in it was my mum

“Oh there has been a terrible accident a plane has flown into a skyscraper”

Just as she said that Tony ( my cousin who was over for a trip ) is heard in the back ground

“Bloody Hell there is another one.”

We all went silent, incredulous watching as devastation rained down from the sky on a beautiful September morning.

I called my son- he told me that they were being evacuated from the college and told to return home- there was something going on in Cleveland , as he was heading to his campus apartment there were agents and militia armed with weapons in and around the streets- it was very tense. They were told to stay inside.

That day had a profound effect on this nation – I remember for the next two mornings- as I watered the garden not a sound from the sky , no roaring of the high-speed boats out on the lake- traffic was almost non existent- the sound of a siren sent chills- flags appeared outside the houses and on the streets – as if a patriotic garden bloomed from the carnage.

We did not move from the television- we watched as if from another planet the “human” story unfold that day. We hardly knew how to express our thoughts -the ugliness of hatred brought home -engulfing and billowing out as the towers and civilization fell in the name of “Jihad”.

As for those that carried out these attacks there are no adequate words of condemnation. Their barbarism will stand as their shame for all eternity.
–British Prime Minister Tony Blair

My son used his talents , he did a series of posters – that I have yet to find since his passing. It was after that day my son wore his patriotism proudly – always one to fly the flag ( more on that at the closure of this blog) he defended her the way he knew best through his work.

Yes , I am remembering Septembers and they are tinged with pride , lack of understanding , helplessness and prejudice against those that cause pain to the human heart and condition ………

and all who weep including the willow WE REMEMBER SEPT 11TH IN OUR OWN WAY!

September 10, 2014 at 9:35 pm 3 comments

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