Dye- abolical – goose and the gander- Inspection Process – Lorain

February 7, 2015 at 7:31 pm 11 comments


I have written so much about the lack of timely inspections in Lorain – I am well and truly fed up to the teeth with it. However , as you can see ,not all such inspections take weeks, or bloody years! some ( mine for instance) took 4 days

So what was the difference ?

present and correct

1. Could it be that the inspection process is geared to those that WILL take care of any citations quickly in order for the stats to show the “process is working”?

dye a tribed

2. Could it be the inspections are based on just who is making the complaints?

Alright hands up I am very cynical and forgive me if there is a conspiracy theory going on in this post- is there selective enforcement??? YOU decide if I am way off base here !

I have picked three “example” situations , two of which have been fodder on this blog and others for years and one I was directly a part of the email chain.

I could go tit for tat all around Lorain and show hundreds of violations worse than my ” Don Spout” and needing paint garage, which haven’t been addressed in years but the three should suffice to document my displeasure and questioning of the process.

Schneider George 011813

No.1 The legacy of George Schneider.

George, has now passed, but the legacy lives on- it is a pity more was not done before his properties ballooned for 34 to 300. Lorain now has a mess on its hands, worse than ever.
October- 2008 1965 28th Street

October 2008 –
1965 28th G&S
Then Morning Journal:
NOTE-this article no longer archived on line
A Lorain property owner will have some more time to work on a dilapidated building on East 28th Street.

George Schneider, owner of the former Jay Metals building, 1965 E. 28th St., was supposed to be sentenced yesterday for a property maintenance code violation and to monitor the progress of repairs, according to Lorain Municipal Court records. His case was continued to Oct. 31, said Judge Mark Mihok……….
NOW by the time we revisit in 2012
It seems
Schneider pleaded no contest to the violation and was sentenced to the maximum penalty of a $1,000 fine and 180 days in jail.

BUT according to the judge- Mark Mihok

The building department representative indicated that demolition has begun, but there is some asbestos that was found,” Mihok said yesterday. The state now has to determine if they’re going to do an asbestos study, he added.

“We should have a final disposition from the state and hopefully some more progress on the demolition,”

The former Jay Metals building is on the list of 12 properties that Mayor Anthony Krasienko (2008-2012) wants demolished as soon as possible.

And I asked You be the judge- 2 years ago:

Fast forward September 2012 / 2013

A year ago  Jan 2013

Two years ago Jan 2013

Oh there was much ado about NOTHING happening here at 1965- and Now January 2015 – 7 YEARS!!!!!! after that first blog post and we have

 1965 28th Street January  2015

1965 28th Street January 2015

Oh there is always too-ing and fro-ing it was asbestos, it has been sold it has…yada yada yada but according to the auditors site the property is still listed under George ( now his estate ) and actually only owes about $4,000 in delinquent taxes- a minimal amount compared to some properties in Lorain-


I will probably be dead myself before the inspection process is “complied with” on this property and this gateway eyesore is nothing but a brownfield…… In my humble opinion the process DID NOT work on this one-

Next up No. 2 …….


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The DYEnamics of Inspections – Time lines – Lorain Dye- abolical – goose /gander Inspection Process Pt 2 – Lorain

11 Comments Add your own

  • 1. Rich Robbin  |  February 7, 2015 at 8:02 pm

    cant wait to read more about the “justice system” and our community leaders working for the betterment of all!

  • 2. Rich Robbin  |  February 7, 2015 at 8:03 pm

    just cant figure out who “the all” is….

  • 3. Loraine Ritchey  |  February 7, 2015 at 8:06 pm

    well maybe the question we should ask those running for office- what they intend to do about the “judges” the process, the departments what they feel works and what doesn’t?

  • 4. Dennis Flores  |  February 7, 2015 at 8:58 pm

    …here’s a start Rich, summer breeze makes me feel…


  • 5. Loraine  |  February 8, 2015 at 2:12 pm

    thanks Dennis that was the inventory report when I threw a wobbly when they used my icon house that I had been “bitchin” about for 38 years 🙂 I will include it in one of the posts

  • 6. Dennis Flores  |  February 8, 2015 at 6:29 pm

    Do we recall the City of Lorain’s Nuisance Inspection Taskforce, June 2012 and the parcel-by parcel inventory study completed by the Western Reserve Land Conservancy?

    (Thank you, Nord Family Foundation)

    Remember those summer college intern students with tablets taking pictures?

    Well, you can throw out all that data, it seems to be that the building, housing and planning department could not make a case through the housing court because that data is over a year old. Let’s start all over again, huh? Enter the proposed, new Nuisance Inspection Taskforce 2.0 a regurgitated taskforce version complete with new hires (management position of Program Manager, 2 building inspectors) don’t forget the summer college interns and the current deputized building inspectors.

    Will what we saw and what were seeing ever be done any differently?
    …to be continued

  • 7. thatwoman  |  February 9, 2015 at 2:22 pm

    Dennis there is some clarification on this comment – I asked Mr. Mason to address this situation from Mr. Mason

    ” The “data” has not been “thrown” out. Due to statute of limitations being reached on some cases pertaining to nuisance inspections from previous years, the cases had to be dismissed. On that same note, the City can again issue notices as well as citations/summons for people to appear in court (e.g. tickets) for housing code violations.”

  • 9. thatwoman  |  February 11, 2015 at 1:54 pm

    As a transparency note- I did receive a rather insulting comment from one of the tenants that lived in the house 1125-( the house now demolished whose vegetation Kathy Dye objects to on that side of the property (OWNED by the City) calling me everything but well – you can guess… I guess I made an impression- however normally I would’ve posted as she gave her real name BUT the comment was totally inaccurate she took one instance and combined it with others – got the people wrong – and the language I was accused of using was also inaccurate . The comment was moved to trash.

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