Dye- abolical – goose /gander Inspection Process Pt 3 – Lorain

February 12, 2015 at 3:24 pm 7 comments

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I have covered 2 of the three examples of the process of Inspections, the Building Dept. and the process so far. These two have been documented to death on this blog and others over the years and whose main complainants have been elected officials.
fail 1965 E 28th Street– Mayor Krasienko -2008-2012 documented from 2008 –
current state

 1965 28th Street January  2015

1965 28th Street January 2015

fail3620 Clifton Ave Councilman Eddie Edwards documented since 2012 https://thatwoman.wordpress.com/2015/02/10/dye-abolical-goose-gander-inspection-process-pt-2-lorain/
current state
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Part Three : 2nd Ward Councilman Dennis Flores
dennis Flores Mr. Flores is one of the more active and reachable council people .

His 2nd ward also happens to cover a great deal of the oldest housing and building stock in Lorain. He has been tireless over the years he has held office in reporting problem buildings, housing in his ward. I know this because, for the most part, when the issues are in this – Lorain’s oldest neighborhood- I get copied on the emails.

There are hundreds over the years – I lost count . Mr. Flores usually attached photos. Below are just two screen shots of the dozens and dozens submitted to the Building Dept.
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There is an ongoing tone of frustration in his emails as he has repeatedly asked for follow-up status on his complaints. I know “some” have gone through the process. What the status and success of out come of those and the length of time in the system I cannot document at the moment. I have asked the city administration for some answers- none forthcoming as of today. However, I can comment on at least one of the properties, as I was party to the email conversation at the time

113 Hamilton- In September (22nd- 2014) Mr. Flores wrote (edited)

Sep 22, 2014
There are several issues here but how will this get resolved?
Received a complaint regarding 6 raccoons climbing into the hole on east corner side of 113 Hamilton ave.,

Also there was a handicap ramp built so in a way to block-in a motor home and the vehicle still parking in front-lawn of house.
Please advise, what are the steps to get these issues resolved? Thank Dennis


The reason I have picked this one is it is an historically significant home. Charleston Village had also received many enquiries / complaints. Since the owner is elderly, has some disability and the home receives some tourist traffic, we tried to help.
2010 Home picture ( Dan Brady http://danielebrady.blogspot.com
ak 2010
We had cleaned and painted for the owner in October 2011
Home pictured October 2011 after clean -up
AK 2011
However, over the ensuring months, more issues developed – including an unhappy neighbor, who was turned down for rehab loan on their property due to the condition of this property. I said as much in a return email to those to whom Mr. Flores sent the complaint.

This is actually the home that was the birthplace of Admiral King. Charleston Village did help the owner clear, clean and paint the porch two years ago due to the dedication of the Admiral King Tribute Site. Unfortunately things have, as Dennis stated, deteriorated both with the wheel chair “fencing” and the conditions outside and inside the house . We have had complaints from property owners who have been turned down for financing due to the condition of this house , when they had been trying to rehab their property. FYI I sincerely hope something can be done to alleviate this situation as sad as these conditions are in and around our neighborhood what with other historic properties being neglected this one getting to this state is particularly sad………. Loraine Ritchey

I asked Mr. Flores last week to check and see if there had been a recent inspection report on this property and or follow-up and any paperwork since obviously the timely inspection of my property – 4 working days – seemed to set a bar.
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Mr. Flores, double checked personally. There had been some paperwork before his complaint in September ( a building permit for the ramp) a citation in 2010 before we ( the volunteers of Charleston Village) cleaned up the property but it seems Mr. Flores complaint of September 22nd 2014 did not meet with the “speedy” response as did 1127, 4th Street. There wasn’t any paperwork forthcoming showing a follow-up from the Building Dept. officials

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WHY??????? should not Mr. Flores’ ( an elected official) complaints be met with the same speedy response as Design Review Board member Kathy Dye?
dye a tribed

to be continued …………


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7 Comments Add your own

  • 1. maryspringowski  |  February 12, 2015 at 3:55 pm

    I’m wondering how this meets with the proposed legislation of parking recreational vehicles, etc. I know we were at a party where some people parked on the person’s lawn and that person was cited for that (it was a great party). I don’t get how this whole process works.

  • 2. thatwoman  |  February 12, 2015 at 4:08 pm

    Mary I don’t think the Building Dept has a clue as to how the process is “supposed ” to work if they did no matter how many “administrations” or council people have been elected over the decades the building dept was a constant – ask how we got to this state if the process as it is works?

  • 3. Tammy Ramirez  |  February 12, 2015 at 5:10 pm

    “ask how we got to this state if the process as it is works?” Seems even though the building dept. has changed slightly, there must be some legacy that is still there…visions of Prudoff?

  • 4. thatwoman  |  February 12, 2015 at 5:18 pm

    Well Tammy part four will ask the hard questions- selective enforcement – when do the beans get spilled – Prudoff especially when it comes to this area certainly factored – the only reason CV came into existence was because Community Development and Prudoff and Urindriski were so against a preservation organization of as we were called “the middle class click” .. another bit of history as we might interfere with their plans re HUD monies…….just ask Rich Robbin 🙂 and then of course Prudoff jumped in with the ordinance for a design review board yup it goes round and round Part 4 will explore….

  • 5. Rich Robbin  |  February 12, 2015 at 11:47 pm

    excellent article – definitely needs answere and YES we were told we were a ‘middle class click’ at the time and our council person said “Charleston Village will NOT work”. That got our gruff and off we ran wuith the whole concept.

  • 6. thatwoman  |  February 12, 2015 at 11:53 pm

    yep and now her son is the housing court judge 😉

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