Lorain’s Housing -owners of the dirty diapers- Pt 2
November 6, 2017 at 5:02 pm 7 comments
DEJA VU the dirty diaper is reeking 3620 Clifton November 3rd 2017
https://thatwoman.wordpress.com/2017/10/22/lorains-housing-the-owners-of-the-dirty-diaper-pt1/
October 19th- 2017 another year another Demolition Board of Appeals . (9:00 am) Hours of sitting scribbling notes and feeling filthy – hundreds of photos – disgusting photos of human and animal waste, homes that had been built with families in mind left rotting and decaying , carpets heaving with mold and fleas
and heaven knows what else that was breeding in those structures. The mold in this home had attached itself not only to the surface areas but has literally compromised the wood and structure of the home. Well what do you expect when it had been open to the elements for years.
In other properties , stairs to the 2nd floor so dangerous that even the squatters had brought in a step-ladder to gain access, whole floors missing as they had been torn up to burn in a partially working fireplace. Even more disgusting –for me at least – is that human beings were actually living, partying and doing drugs in amongst the human waste, mummified cats and some more recently dead animals , rat feces everywhere, a drive up window where apparently the dealer of drugs sat as his/her customers made their purchases. Hypodermic needles , remnants of alcohol containers, food littered every horizontal surface. One home, although a small tree had grown through a window awning, was not in the same terrible state therefore the Demo Board took the home off the list voluntarily.
There is a sub culture in this town using these nauseating dwellings as evidenced by the insides of these structures. These structures are obviously deemed safe from prying eyes by those who frequent the vomitus homes for their illegal and dangerous dealings because no one in their right mind or any sort of consideration of their own worth would enter these places let alone sleep on an excruciatingly filthy couch surrounded by human feces and animal waste, rats and fleas – It just doesn’t bear thinking about .
It is no wonder those that had to inspect had to wear masks and environmental protection gear. The Lorain Police Dept. having to check to make sure the properties were at least free of the dangerous human elements. Hundreds of photos later I was thankful the smells of those places were missing from the presentation.
Everyone was sworn in who intended to speak . I didn’t take the oath for once I wanted to observe and keep my mouth shut……. and then Deja Vu. One of the homes 4310 Meister Road – empty and decaying for 5-7 years
Since this was an appeals board, people could appeal the property being put on the demo list. A property LLC representative came before the board offering $70,000 to save this house. There was much discussion and to the needs of the house, all which apparently could be rectified. Oh that is a positive one would think : So why was I sending out panicked mind messages to the Board members ( not having been sworn in) NO! NO! please NO!!
Back I was transported to another demo board of appeals 3620 Clifton on January 2013.
1. We now know that a property 3620 Clifton purchased in 2011 after five years of being open to the elements was deemed bad enough to be issued a search warrant in Sept 2012-
2. Declared a public nuisance and uninhabitable – the property listed for demolition ( along with two neighboring properties ) Jan 4th 2013
3.Given a reprieve because the “Duo of Will Do” ( Barbee and Johnson) owners pleaded before the Demolitions appeals Board for more time a week later Jan 11th 2013 by that same board . A board that had doubts caved to the “give em a break mentality”
You can find the series and reports ( all documented ) https://thatwoman.wordpress.com/2017/05/29/a-tale-of-two-the-why-land-of-iz-not-woz/
The fact the gentleman at the mic was well meaning didn’t change my mind. You see he had not purchased or even had letter of intent to purchase from the supposed owner of the property ( another of those wonderful banks) –
he did not have a business plan or list of contracted subcontractors showing the intent to do the work or even a check as a gesture of intent.
As the representative of the legal dept. spoke those words (paraphrasing because I was instantly sent back to another time -2013) “we can always re-inspect……. aaaaaahhhhhhhhh”and FAMOUS last words from 3620 Clifton
“Mr. Cantu 2013 : Yes! because we could cite him on property maintenance if he doesn’t continue to go on. NNNNNNNNOOOOOOOO please no!
Because those same words uttered led to 3620 sitting for another 4 years and having to start the process all over again…….. see the photo at the top of this post. The Statute of Limitations ran out.
When we (Lorain 365 Blog) https://lorain365.com/ researched the process of 3620 Clifton , we found that inspections are not all what they are cracked up to be . For instance for the inspectors etc to go through the inside of these properties there is a lot of legal procedures. The city has to get a search warrant. ( these are for these abandoned homes).
We found the properties could only be inspected from the street or neighboring property ( with permission) in the case rehabbing a property ( residential) unless the inspectors were “invited in by the owners”.
Should electrical or plumbing permits are pulled they can fall under inspection process.
BUT what if people don’t ask them in or pull those permits – and that does happen a lot believe me – happened to the house next door to me on both sides – one is now demoed). You see not everyone follows the rules ( if they did we wouldn’t have these structures in the first place!!!!
I was very interested in the mold abatement – and it seems an unscrupulous builder, contractor could very well come in spray the bleach , chemicals put up new drywall change out the carpets and Voila…..you are non the wiser…… unless the Building Dept are asked in………. Yes I can see that happening with especially the out of town LLC’s – I don’t think so!!!!! From the City of Lorain BHP dept.
As to going in and inspecting the removal of mold etc. the Building Department has to be scheduled for an inspection. If the owner would like us to be out there for that inspection – we would go. In other words – we just can’t show up and expect to be invited in.
As far as the electrical, plumbing, heating etc. All of that work (the rough in inspections, undergrounds) will probably require permits (any new wiring, furnace/ac, water lines etc. require permits). Those inspections are encompassed within the Building Permit (and required Building Code regulations).
We, the law abiding citizens and property owners , are not protected by a system that has no accountability – and so it continues – back to 1348 West Erie next time …….. Welcome to my parlor (Lorain) said the fly to the spider – slice us and dice up
To Be Continued
Entry filed under: city of lorain, commentary, hell is other people, Lorain Multi Property Owners, notorious opponents of exactitude. Tags: City of Lorain, Demolition Appeals Board, disgraceful, local politics, Lorain Building Department, The Law, trite and tripe, waste not want not.
1. Rich Robbin | November 6, 2017 at 5:36 pm
Sad situation, that’s for sure. What about Mrs. Fedors on 5th. It’s been empty for a while and you could tell by the 3’ tall weeds and more.
2. thatwoman | November 6, 2017 at 6:06 pm
Oh it is falling in on itself and is in a deplorable condition last “owned by a convicted drug dealer
3. Lisa | November 6, 2017 at 11:19 pm
3620 Clifton’s yard looked better the other day than it has all summer. My first thought was that the owners were trying to make it look like they were taking care of the property and house so they could ask for [justify?] yet another second chance. This house needs to be first on the demolition list.
4. thatwoman | November 7, 2017 at 1:43 pm
maybe the city cut the grass… or neighbors… this is certainly how NOT to run process…………
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6. Brian Linn | December 3, 2017 at 4:29 pm
What about the quadtraplex on South Central street it has all windows and door open and has had a recent fire
7. thatwoman | December 3, 2017 at 4:44 pm
do you have an address so I can check thanks