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Veterans MEMORIAL Park- Fini?

WashinremNOTE: Click on images to enlarge

Part One \
https://thatwoman.wordpress.com/2013/07/15/veterans-memorial-park-a-neglected-disgrace-again/

Part Two
https://thatwoman.wordpress.com/2013/07/17/veterans-memorial-park-the-name-game/

Part Three
https://thatwoman.wordpress.com/2013/07/25/veterans-memorial-park-the-englishman-commeth/

Part Four
https://thatwoman.wordpress.com/2013/07/27/veterans-memorial-park-history-tear-down/

Part Five
https://thatwoman.wordpress.com/2013/07/29/veterans-memorial-park-the-veterans-council-speaks/

Part Six
https://thatwoman.wordpress.com/2013/07/31/veterans-memorial-park-faulty-memory/
Part Seven
https://thatwoman.wordpress.com/2013/08/01/veterans-memorial-park-thanks-for-the-memories/

So we come full circle in 2013- two hundred and one years after the little park was deeded as a park. In part one of this series I touched upon how John Cole and Co stated the “piss park” had outlived her usefulness – Mayor Craig Foltin, John Cole, Jon Veard – Jack LaVirha called up their forces for Condos in the park but unfortunately for them their plans came out before they were ready to go public- the ducks were in the row BUT one little duck quacked too soon!

You see Mr. Veard just happened to come over to the table where Renee Dore and I were sitting at the now “defunct” Pagani’s and quacked! Excerpt from Letter sent by CVSI to Mayor Foltin and the City of Lorain
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….[Veard} him mention to two representatives of Charleston Village Executive Board on Jan 6th his “plan” as we were eating lunch in a very public place. There was no mention of the need for discretion, if anything the impression given was one of the plans for the park being a “done deal” and that all obstacles such as the Gilmore family restriction was and I quote “not a problem, I have been assured that isn’t an issue any more”.
I believe he was truly shocked when his plan did not meet with favor in our eyes. According to Mr. Veard, “you are the first ones that don’t like it” we were then informed, during that conversation, that other public officials, and non profits had been made aware of the plan to put condos in the “Veterans Park”, such as some members of the Lorain Port Authority, “ the veterans are on board”, the city, including Mayor Foltin and yourself (Sandy Prudoff), as well as the editor of the Morning Journal, John Cole.

Checking further, later that day, I could not find any of our elected council representatives that were so informed. Unfortunately the perception of the “inner circle” (Plain Dealer March 6th 2005)Found here

Foltin Cole and Casino
has raised its head once again. This was especially worrying to us after being promised “No surprises!!” by your Chief Planner, Don Romancak not an hour previously during our meeting with ERA.I can only assume, he too, was unaware of the proposed plan that will indeed impact greatly upon our community and neighborhood.

This plan by a private developer does NOT fall into the category of “business” between two private entities but from a “public usage” and “public” land for PRIVATE development. Therefore we maintain the public has the right to be informed through our elected representatives of ANY plans to privatize PUBLIC USAGE LAND prior to being discussed and dissected by a select few in order to find favorable and expedient passage through City Council. We firmly believe this situation merits more input in the initial stages by our elected representatives

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It was a hard battle for those of us who cared about worthiness of her history , the romance of her , the fact that maybe she had outlived her use to the Lorain Veterans Council,( circa 2006) whose 1980’s committee had been given direct “design” of this park and the money to implement such design and then walked away only to return once a year apparently. Some of us were insulted , ridiculed on the front pages of the Morning Journal and in letters to the Editor – “village idiots and boneheads of history” were two of the most used 🙂 I was personally accused on the front page of said Morning Journal of driving Developer Jon Veard from town hmmmmmmm?

You can find links to the unfolding media story here story here ”

http://www.morningjournal.com/articles/2006/01/17/top%20stories/15942451.txt
New home eyed for veterans park
Published: Tuesday, January 17, 2006
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”It’s still premature,” Foltin said. ”(Veard) still has a lot of hurdles to get over before we figure out what can and cannot be done with the (Veterans Memorial Park) land.”

Developer unveils plan for new veterans park
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http://www.morningjournal.com/articles/2006/01/18/top%20stories/15949501.txt?viewmode=default

Mayor Craig Foltin has said the future of the project depends on the veterans. He said the park, which is owned by the city, belongs to the veterans and only they can decide what to do with the proposal.

http://www.morningjournal.com/articles/2006/02/17/top%20stories/16143925.txt

Veterans want written proposal for new park
Published: Friday, February 17, 2006
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http://www.morningjournal.com/articles/2006/02/21/top%20stories/16165472.txt
published 21st February 2006
Veterans Park will likely stay put

http://www.morningjournal.com/articles/2006/02/22/opinion/16173705.txt
Lorain’s City Council shouldn’t be so quick to reject downtown condos (John Cole)

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Published: Wednesday, February 22, 2006
But how can city leaders trumpet the need to save the park, when they have stood by and let it become such a vandalized dump? Lorain’s veterans barely use it anymore because it’s so seedy and because all the ceremonial action in Lorain these days is at Black River Landing.

Veard got the idea for his project after learning that the veterans didn’t use Veterans Memorial Park, holding all but one annual ceremony at Black River Landing instead.The town’s veterans organizations took an interest in Veard’s proposal for the same reasons, though they were still seeking more details in writing when City Council pulled the plug.

The Chronicle Telegram
Condos planned at vets’ park site by Shawn Foucher by Shawn Foucher
The Chronicle-Telegram document found here

Park Chronicle
LaVriha said:
“We’re going to present it to the Veterans’ Council, and we’ll have a discussion about it. Naturally some of them will be opposed, but we’ll knock the hell out of their arguments

JUNE-17-1964-Honor-Roll

ED NOTE: As an aside the meeting held with the Lorain Port Authority during this time Jack LaVirha was asked ( and I have the tape of that meeting ) what happened to the previous honor roll monument ( pictured???) at that meeting which also included Warren Finkel ( also now deceased – the architect of Lorain City Hall ) Jack LaVriha stated it was in his garage!

Thanks to city council and the community the little park was saved and the area from becoming more (imho) design by desperation and bad urban planning.
Collage VP 2006
Photos Scott Bakalar
Lorain Lions Club, The skateboarders of the day and Girl Scouts cleaning and getting the park back into shape 2006
August of that year found members of the community – Lorain Lions Club- volunteers from CVSI, BRHS , Girl Scouts, skateboarders getting the park back into shape . ( some groups though were conspicuous by their absence ) You can find the article from WOM Blog here
LIFE RETURNS TO A MEMORIAL PARK

Life returns to a Memorial Park

with PHOTOS

Bic collage

In 2007 this community held the Bicentennial Celebration and just as the settlement that became Lorain so the celebrations radiated out from the park to involve all of Lorain. (Note: not publicized or covered by the Morning Journal thanks to the direction of Mr. Cole 😉 Dignitaries graced her stage and people once again enjoyed the camaraderie under her trees. All photos found here
http://www.flickr.com/photos/12219598@N06/with/1249160450/

We are now back in the present, the park has seen 50 Mayors walk into various buildings surrounding her boundaries in the 206 years she has served as a public square and 201 since she has been a deeded park. She has outlasted all the buildings, she has stood as a testament to a settlement on the Black River from those burned out and a brave pioneering spirit of 1776 . She has been ravaged by man but not my time ! Com VP

Today , I received two announcement of community events in August in the park, people sitting on those chipped concrete steps, near the light poles of shame and those “benches honoring lives lost ”

So what now? Does anyone have any information as to the “official naming of Lorain Memorial Park- 1966 officially became Veterans Memorial Park???
Who will see her significance and worth? ANYONE???????

REMEBERED AS YOU  WERE

August 2, 2013 at 4:55 pm 9 comments

Veterans MEMORIAL Park- “Faulty Memory”

Washinton ave park one

NOTE: Click on images to enlarge

Part One \
https://thatwoman.wordpress.com/2013/07/15/veterans-memorial-park-a-neglected-disgrace-again/

Part Two
https://thatwoman.wordpress.com/2013/07/17/veterans-memorial-park-the-name-game/

Part Three
https://thatwoman.wordpress.com/2013/07/25/veterans-memorial-park-the-englishman-commeth/

Part Four
https://thatwoman.wordpress.com/2013/07/27/veterans-memorial-park-history-tear-down/

Part Five
https://thatwoman.wordpress.com/2013/07/29/veterans-memorial-park-the-veterans-council-speaks/

We once again fast forward back in time to the late 1970″s early 1980″s when it seems after the “renaming of Washington Avenue Park- to Lorain Memorial Park ” .
Mr. Jack LaVriha, the associations he headed and the various affiliated organizations went back to the then city administration and the council to “fix up” the park.
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ED NOTE: We are still searching for dialogue and correspondence from that era.

But according to the Plain Dealer article July 16th 1990 ( more later on that article)
it states:

1970s' quote

How did we get to the Plain Dealer article of 1990- with Jack LaVirha -just 5 short years after hundreds of thousand of dollars were spent- calling the park

boodoggle

In 1983 the first “emergency ordinance” we have found so far states:

ordinance 1983 res

Not to exceed “$170.000
Full PDF file found here

1983
The “news” paper trail starts here : Chronicle Telegram
Sept 13 1983 and then a week later
Sept 20th 1983 cropped

NOTE: Somewhere in between 1966 renaming of Washington (Ave) Park to Lorain Memorial Park , the ordinance in January of 1983 still calls the park “Washington Park”- the September 13th newspaper account refers to the name as Veterans Memorial Park

Erie ave Washinton park one

So the question then begs to be answered when was the official name change???? May 22nd 1984 finds yet another article and more money?

PDF file of newspaper found here

MAY 22 1984
May 194

and then it starts to get interesting that amount of no more $170,000.00 is growing like topsy and the blame game starts :

From the Chronicle Telegram : June 26th 1984 PDF file found here JUNE 26 1984

June 1984vets

City Council members are angered by the amount of time it has taken to rehabilitate the park, and also are discouraged with the Lorain Veterans Council for Civic Improvements, which originally said it would help finance construction. But according to Safety Director Anthony Murello, also a member of the veterans group, the council believed the city had the necessary funds for the completion. “We were led to believe by Frank Mason (former Community Development director) that we had all the money,” Murello said.
HE SAID that the veterans were told this during a public meeting in March 1983, adding that the meeting’s minutes can- not be found. Murello said the park’s condition should be blamed not only on the veterans, but also on the former City Council and Mason

ED Note Frank Mason was the Community Development Director during the early 1980’s due to the firing of Sanford Prudoff

July 3 1984: The Chronicle Telegram once again follows the story – PDF file found here JULY 3 1984

July 3rd 1984

But Skimin believes Council was “had” by the Lorain Veterans’ Council for Civic Improvements, a group of men who originally said they would help finance the park. “I think it ought to stay there as some sort of monument of Council being gullible,” he said. “What we heard from them was not true.” Skimin believes that because council was “had” it should investigate why a promise “never came true.”
OTHER COUNCILMEN agreed with Skimin, saying they do not like to see so many federal dollars going toward a park with the veterans’ name on it. Ross was the only one who supported Skimin with a vote, saying “It should be called Block Grant or Community Development park.”

ordinance 6th5 1985

In May of 1985 yet more money was given to the park and to the Vets Council yet another $50 thousand

SO HOW IS THAT JUST 5 YEARS LATER IN THE PLAIN DEALER ARTICLE – JACK LAVIRHA AND THE VETERANS COUNCIL ARE CALLING THIS PARK THEY MANAGED TO GET “$500,000 OF IMPROVEMENTS FOR “BAD NEWS”

ED NOTE: Once again thanks has to go to Dan Brady for all the newspaper articles and to Nancy Greer ( Clerk of Council) for the ordinances and minutes

TO BE CONTINUED …………………

July 31, 2013 at 11:11 am 3 comments

Veteran’s MEMORIAL Park- The Veterans Council speaks

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Part One \
https://thatwoman.wordpress.com/2013/07/15/veterans-memorial-park-a-neglected-disgrace-again/

Part Two
https://thatwoman.wordpress.com/2013/07/17/veterans-memorial-park-the-name-game/

Part Three
https://thatwoman.wordpress.com/2013/07/25/veterans-memorial-park-the-englishman-commeth/

Part Four
https://thatwoman.wordpress.com/2013/07/27/veterans-memorial-park-history-tear-down/
dismantling

Once again it is with thanks to Dan Brady and his research as to the not so “swinging sixties” for what was up until this time Gilmore/Reid , Public Square, Washington Avenue Park ( Washington Park )
Dan Brady wrote about the World War Two Monument here
http://danielebrady.blogspot.com/2011/05/veterans-monument.html
and what happened to the World War Two Honor Roll in the mid sixties
http://danielebrady.blogspot.com/2012/06/honor-roll-in-washington-park-june-1964.html

Not only were changes being made in the park it seems Jack LaVriha in his capacity of Chairman of the Lorain Memorial Association disagreed with an objection at a public hearing on changing the name of Washington (Ave) Park to LORAIN MEMORIAL PARK- he stated the Lorain Memorial association was comprised according to him of 14 Veterans Association , auxiliaries , churches schools, patriotic organizations and of the 5,000 veterans had 100% backing to change the name and that is apparently what happened according to the minutes

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(Ed Note – Once again thank you to Nancy Greer Clerk of Council for her help in tracking down these minutes. Unfortunately we cannot seem to find the next name change ordinance a fact we will explore in Part 7)

So in 1967 a new monument to those who served in “ALL WARS” was erected with much respect and ceremony.
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Courtesy of Dan Brady
http://danielebrady.blogspot.com/2011/05/veterans-monument.html

How sad that same monument is being allowed to be used as a urinal a few decades later –
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ED NOTE:where are the Veteran’s organizations, churches , schools and patriotic organizations today????

Jack LaVriha
http://chronicle.northcoastnow.com/2008/05/15/jack-e-lavriha-2/
Jack

And now we moved on to the next decades where there was much ado and much money involved……… and at the center of this movement was Jack LaVriha and the various organizations …..

July 29, 2013 at 10:25 pm 1 comment


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