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Politics – Park- Reservation- and a Presidential Candidate

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November 3rd will find the local election upon us- I will be glad when it is over! I suppose the “characters of change” will find something else to rail about subjecting us to their Neolithic form of debate .

I worry for this community, as to the bottom feeding blowhards that have surfaced through the muck and mire of politics. Although, I have to admit some of the you tube antics/ music( music??? may not be the proper description ) and sign placements did give a few chuckles. Pity the characters get in the way of a decent debate ! To be expected I guess, the form of debate around here seems to be of the name calling , concrete and windows type. https://thatwoman.wordpress.com/2015/08/23/hurled-through-the-window-retribution-who-done-it-lorain/
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I was researching through my back hard drives this morning for something I had saved on what is now known as Veterans Park. You see the little park that has witnessed so much

https://thatwoman.wordpress.com/2013/05/08/the-history-park-1812-201-hundred-years-a-recorded-city-park-veterans-park-lorain-ohio/
and barely missed the “wrecking ball” back in 2005 due to “politics” has now been designated a Lorain County Historical Landmark Site .
That little park from whence this city was platted finally has its due!
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The respect for this little green space wasn’t always the case – her story can be found here
https://thatwoman.wordpress.com/2013/08/01/veterans-memorial-park-thanks-for-the-memories/

WoM Logo  by  Scott Baklar

WoM Logo by Scott Baklar


As I researched through those files, I came across a post from the now defunct WoM Blog. https://thatwoman.wordpress.com/2009/07/11/revisionist-history-by-omission/

ED NOTE: I am irritated as I look for items I know were recorded and researched on that old blog – no longer available

. But I did save some things. One such post was written by Scott Bakalar ( and myself) in February 2006, when the then Editor of the Morning Journal John Cole was trying his damnedest to bring senior citizen housing to the little park- he and his cohorts had also tried to give away acreage to the Shawnee and it is all to be found in that WoM post
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There is a lot of information in that document , not only about the little park, the wheeling and dealing of politics and a certain Mr. Terry Casey
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Mayor Foltin’s email to Terry Casey 2005

Re: John Cole, longtime editor of the local newspaper. “I feel he should be briefed early (even in the next week or two) with the understanding that we are in very early stages and he will be the first to know if anything happens and when it becomes public,” Foltin wrote Oct. 11 in an e-mail to Casey. “He can personally squash any nay-saying and ensure broad community support.” – PD 3/5/05

http://www.clevelandmagazine.com/ME2/dirmod.asp?sid=E73ABD6180B44874871A91F6BA5C249C&nm=Arts+%26+Entertainemnt&type=Publishing&mod=Publications%3A%3AArticle&mid=1578600D80804596A222593669321019&tier=4&id=2E5CA2B54BA14FAA8895242044261F67


If nothing else works, the Eastern Shawnee could file an aggressive claim for far more land than they actually need for casinos, threatening the state with millions of dollars in reparations. Then, the tribe could drop the claim in exchange for approval to open casinos.

“So the Indian gaming just gives us a few other options,” says Foltin as casually as if he were discussing dinner plans.

You could almost call that blackmail. And you’d think Foltin would worry about losing his Republican allies. He’s not. “The sense that I’ve gotten is that they aren’t mad at me,” he says. “They understand why I have to do this.

ED NOTE: THEY are presumably Republican Foltin’s political party comrades in arms! I didn’t and never will understand why this community spent hundreds of thousands of dollars to try to become a “reservation” but apparently the politicians understood!

WoM Logo  by  Scott Baklar

WoM Logo by Scott Baklar

Starting off a firestorm of wheeling, dealing, controversy and spending of taxpayer’s money. The fact that National Capital One (in whose direction we were pointed) and Terry Casey, spokesperson for National Capital One who had a less than a sterling reputation was never mentioned in the editorial. In fact although Dayton, Cleveland newspapers carried the story of Casey’s “faux paux” I could never find mention of that fact in any of Cole’s Editorials. The fact that National Capital One has pleaded guilty to securities fraud has not had any mention in any editorial I have seen since. And oh yes! the very person to whom Cole’s ability to “squash” was touted was that same Terry Casey in the infamous e-mail from Mayor Foltin.

Now Mr. Casey whose past in my opinion was iffy certainly
casey, terry l – Columbus News Index http://www.columbuslibrary.org

Mr. Casey was the executive director of the Franklin County Republican Party when he fell on his sword and took the blame for a system that laundered campaign contributions and went on to be investigated by two elections agencies.

went on to bigger and greater things –

http://www.plunderbund.com/2015/05/11/kasich-self-starter-political-operative-agency-appointee-terry-casey-breaks-bad-again/
he was appointed by {our} Ohio Governor Kasich ” For a self-described long-time Republican operative and self-starter like Terry L. Casey, who Gov. Kasich appointed soon after he was sworn-in to lead the state’s Employee Relations Board at a yearly salary of $66,997

caused some further issues

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Mr. Casey’s filing on May 12, 2014 with the Ohio Ethics Commission lists sources of income that include The Ohio Republican Party, Summit County Republican Party, State of Ohio and Simon Tanger, developers behind the Delaware County outlet mall. Those familiar with Gov. Kasich and his brand of take-no-prisoners politics, understand exactly why he would hire public officials with prior conviction records like Matt Borges and Terry Casey. They’ll do the dirty work.

GOP consultant Terry Casey denies plotting with Kasich against Libertarian challenger
http://www.dispatch.com/content/stories/local/2014/09/30/gop-consultant-terry-casey-denies-plotting-with-kasich-against-libertarian.html
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Hopefully, Gov. Kasich, who is running as a Republican for the President of the United States, looks into the history of his appointees a little closer- should he succeed! Mr. Casey , for one, cost this community a great deal of money and polarized a community – along with the politics and press of the day .

Let the political rhetoric begin a new for November 2016 – but I for one will be glad when Tuesday in Lorain has come and gone!!!!

Yes! the seething, rotting, writhing , distorted views of political pundits comes and goes but a little park survives– hopefully so will the voters sanity – although I must say some seem to have lost it already- their sanity that is 😉

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October 31, 2015 at 3:42 pm Leave a comment

Veterans MEMORIAL Park- Fini?

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Part One \
https://thatwoman.wordpress.com/2013/07/15/veterans-memorial-park-a-neglected-disgrace-again/

Part Two
https://thatwoman.wordpress.com/2013/07/17/veterans-memorial-park-the-name-game/

Part Three
https://thatwoman.wordpress.com/2013/07/25/veterans-memorial-park-the-englishman-commeth/

Part Four
https://thatwoman.wordpress.com/2013/07/27/veterans-memorial-park-history-tear-down/

Part Five
https://thatwoman.wordpress.com/2013/07/29/veterans-memorial-park-the-veterans-council-speaks/

Part Six
https://thatwoman.wordpress.com/2013/07/31/veterans-memorial-park-faulty-memory/
Part Seven
https://thatwoman.wordpress.com/2013/08/01/veterans-memorial-park-thanks-for-the-memories/

So we come full circle in 2013- two hundred and one years after the little park was deeded as a park. In part one of this series I touched upon how John Cole and Co stated the “piss park” had outlived her usefulness – Mayor Craig Foltin, John Cole, Jon Veard – Jack LaVirha called up their forces for Condos in the park but unfortunately for them their plans came out before they were ready to go public- the ducks were in the row BUT one little duck quacked too soon!

You see Mr. Veard just happened to come over to the table where Renee Dore and I were sitting at the now “defunct” Pagani’s and quacked! Excerpt from Letter sent by CVSI to Mayor Foltin and the City of Lorain
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….[Veard} him mention to two representatives of Charleston Village Executive Board on Jan 6th his “plan” as we were eating lunch in a very public place. There was no mention of the need for discretion, if anything the impression given was one of the plans for the park being a “done deal” and that all obstacles such as the Gilmore family restriction was and I quote “not a problem, I have been assured that isn’t an issue any more”.
I believe he was truly shocked when his plan did not meet with favor in our eyes. According to Mr. Veard, “you are the first ones that don’t like it” we were then informed, during that conversation, that other public officials, and non profits had been made aware of the plan to put condos in the “Veterans Park”, such as some members of the Lorain Port Authority, “ the veterans are on board”, the city, including Mayor Foltin and yourself (Sandy Prudoff), as well as the editor of the Morning Journal, John Cole.

Checking further, later that day, I could not find any of our elected council representatives that were so informed. Unfortunately the perception of the “inner circle” (Plain Dealer March 6th 2005)Found here

Foltin Cole and Casino
has raised its head once again. This was especially worrying to us after being promised “No surprises!!” by your Chief Planner, Don Romancak not an hour previously during our meeting with ERA.I can only assume, he too, was unaware of the proposed plan that will indeed impact greatly upon our community and neighborhood.

This plan by a private developer does NOT fall into the category of “business” between two private entities but from a “public usage” and “public” land for PRIVATE development. Therefore we maintain the public has the right to be informed through our elected representatives of ANY plans to privatize PUBLIC USAGE LAND prior to being discussed and dissected by a select few in order to find favorable and expedient passage through City Council. We firmly believe this situation merits more input in the initial stages by our elected representatives

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It was a hard battle for those of us who cared about worthiness of her history , the romance of her , the fact that maybe she had outlived her use to the Lorain Veterans Council,( circa 2006) whose 1980’s committee had been given direct “design” of this park and the money to implement such design and then walked away only to return once a year apparently. Some of us were insulted , ridiculed on the front pages of the Morning Journal and in letters to the Editor – “village idiots and boneheads of history” were two of the most used 🙂 I was personally accused on the front page of said Morning Journal of driving Developer Jon Veard from town hmmmmmmm?

You can find links to the unfolding media story here story here ”

http://www.morningjournal.com/articles/2006/01/17/top%20stories/15942451.txt
New home eyed for veterans park
Published: Tuesday, January 17, 2006
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”It’s still premature,” Foltin said. ”(Veard) still has a lot of hurdles to get over before we figure out what can and cannot be done with the (Veterans Memorial Park) land.”

Developer unveils plan for new veterans park
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http://www.morningjournal.com/articles/2006/01/18/top%20stories/15949501.txt?viewmode=default

Mayor Craig Foltin has said the future of the project depends on the veterans. He said the park, which is owned by the city, belongs to the veterans and only they can decide what to do with the proposal.

http://www.morningjournal.com/articles/2006/02/17/top%20stories/16143925.txt

Veterans want written proposal for new park
Published: Friday, February 17, 2006
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http://www.morningjournal.com/articles/2006/02/21/top%20stories/16165472.txt
published 21st February 2006
Veterans Park will likely stay put

http://www.morningjournal.com/articles/2006/02/22/opinion/16173705.txt
Lorain’s City Council shouldn’t be so quick to reject downtown condos (John Cole)

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Published: Wednesday, February 22, 2006
But how can city leaders trumpet the need to save the park, when they have stood by and let it become such a vandalized dump? Lorain’s veterans barely use it anymore because it’s so seedy and because all the ceremonial action in Lorain these days is at Black River Landing.

Veard got the idea for his project after learning that the veterans didn’t use Veterans Memorial Park, holding all but one annual ceremony at Black River Landing instead.The town’s veterans organizations took an interest in Veard’s proposal for the same reasons, though they were still seeking more details in writing when City Council pulled the plug.

The Chronicle Telegram
Condos planned at vets’ park site by Shawn Foucher by Shawn Foucher
The Chronicle-Telegram document found here

Park Chronicle
LaVriha said:
“We’re going to present it to the Veterans’ Council, and we’ll have a discussion about it. Naturally some of them will be opposed, but we’ll knock the hell out of their arguments

JUNE-17-1964-Honor-Roll

ED NOTE: As an aside the meeting held with the Lorain Port Authority during this time Jack LaVirha was asked ( and I have the tape of that meeting ) what happened to the previous honor roll monument ( pictured???) at that meeting which also included Warren Finkel ( also now deceased – the architect of Lorain City Hall ) Jack LaVriha stated it was in his garage!

Thanks to city council and the community the little park was saved and the area from becoming more (imho) design by desperation and bad urban planning.
Collage VP 2006
Photos Scott Bakalar
Lorain Lions Club, The skateboarders of the day and Girl Scouts cleaning and getting the park back into shape 2006
August of that year found members of the community – Lorain Lions Club- volunteers from CVSI, BRHS , Girl Scouts, skateboarders getting the park back into shape . ( some groups though were conspicuous by their absence ) You can find the article from WOM Blog here
LIFE RETURNS TO A MEMORIAL PARK

Life returns to a Memorial Park

with PHOTOS

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In 2007 this community held the Bicentennial Celebration and just as the settlement that became Lorain so the celebrations radiated out from the park to involve all of Lorain. (Note: not publicized or covered by the Morning Journal thanks to the direction of Mr. Cole 😉 Dignitaries graced her stage and people once again enjoyed the camaraderie under her trees. All photos found here
http://www.flickr.com/photos/12219598@N06/with/1249160450/

We are now back in the present, the park has seen 50 Mayors walk into various buildings surrounding her boundaries in the 206 years she has served as a public square and 201 since she has been a deeded park. She has outlasted all the buildings, she has stood as a testament to a settlement on the Black River from those burned out and a brave pioneering spirit of 1776 . She has been ravaged by man but not my time ! Com VP

Today , I received two announcement of community events in August in the park, people sitting on those chipped concrete steps, near the light poles of shame and those “benches honoring lives lost ”

So what now? Does anyone have any information as to the “official naming of Lorain Memorial Park- 1966 officially became Veterans Memorial Park???
Who will see her significance and worth? ANYONE???????

REMEBERED AS YOU  WERE

August 2, 2013 at 4:55 pm 9 comments

Veterans MEMORIAL Park- thanks for the memories

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Part One \
https://thatwoman.wordpress.com/2013/07/15/veterans-memorial-park-a-neglected-disgrace-again/

Part Two
https://thatwoman.wordpress.com/2013/07/17/veterans-memorial-park-the-name-game/

Part Three
https://thatwoman.wordpress.com/2013/07/25/veterans-memorial-park-the-englishman-commeth/

Part Four
https://thatwoman.wordpress.com/2013/07/27/veterans-memorial-park-history-tear-down/

Part Five
https://thatwoman.wordpress.com/2013/07/29/veterans-memorial-park-the-veterans-council-speaks/

Part Six
https://thatwoman.wordpress.com/2013/07/31/veterans-memorial-park-faulty-memory/

After a great deal of talking, the Veteran’s organizations under the umbrella of a Lorain Veterans Council entered into a contract with the City of Lorain for a further $346,500.00 to renovate Washington Ave Park/Lorain Memorial Park.

Interestingly enough even the contract language can’t seem to make up its mind as to the “name” of the park – front page of the contract-
Washington Park– Under the “money agreement” it is –Lorain Memorial Park– and farther down in the language- Veterans Memorial Park.
Maybe the funding was for three different parks ( sarcasm abounds)
The PDF file of the 1983 contract is to be found here :
20130731142325211.pdf

It also seems questions were once again being asked at city council meetings on May 21st- 1984

May 21 1984 min

(PDF File Here)
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Now we jump forward back in time to the Plain Dealer article of 1990 ( full article found here )Veterans park

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Apparently the Park ( whatever its name)
was “finished” in 1987 and then “died by 1990” according to Jack LaVirha.

We were also dealing with the “skateboarders” back 23 years ago vandalizing the park not much has changed apparently. . The newly installed benches found Jack complaining as to their condition just THREE YEARS after the “finish”.

“Veterans raised money to install benches and dedicated to the memory of a deceased person

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Those benches are still there today .

Could it be after spending a total of $463,526.00 from 1983 through 1987, changing the whole look and feel of the little public square,

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the organizations, under the umbrella of the Lorain Veterans Council , threw up their hands and walked away after they declared it dead!

Did the Veterans Council of the day( and also of today ) relieve themselves of all responsibility to that little historic park after they “renovated it? ? Was it and is back to the tax payers to revive her once again?

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Apparently, according to then Parks Director Steven Bailey the Parks Dept were never consulted in the design etc

:”LaVirha complains about the park, but Bailey said it was the veterans who hired and worked with the architects [ Ron Cocco of Clark and Post]to “design the park and settled on the concrete foundation and amphitheater.

ED NOTE: It is apparent to me that number 7 in the contractual requirements

No 7: Establish a design that can be easily and economically maintained by the City of Lorain

and number 8

No 8 Utilize products and materials that are durable , easily maintained and resistant to vandalism


weren’t strictly adhered to-

WHO TURNED NEARLY $500,000 DOLLARS INTO A BOONDOGGLE, BAD NEWS AND DEAD PARK?

The question begs to be asked, of the powers that be back in the 80’s- why did we lose the integrity and ambiance of ‘public square- into what it has become today?

Was it lack of oversight by administrations – councils- giving an organization free reign without follow through accountability- poor architectural design, which in the opinion of many changed the this little park into a concrete clump! We are seemingly stuck with the decisions of those involved back in the 1980’s- the 1980’s known as the “Decade that Made Us “ certainly left its mark on us!

This little park who is now supposedly born out of the “Sufferers” need for settlement after the War of Independence – See Part Two:

The western end of the reserve included the 500,000 acres (2,000 km2) Firelands or “Sufferers Lands,” reserved for residents of several New England towns destroyed by British-set fires during the Revolutionary War

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and whose signage states “for those that have served our nation” and whose monument also states

” In grateful tribute to the Lorain men and women who served their county in ALL WARS”

has been a silent witness to the wars of this nation:

War of Independence 1775-1783 25,000
Northwest Indian War 1785-1795 1,221
Quasi-War 1798-1800 20

1812 Public Square became a “deeded park”

Barbary Wars 1801-1815 35
War of 1812 1812-1815 20,000
1st Seminole War 1817-1818 30
2nd Seminole War 1835-1842 1,500
Mexican-American War 1846-1848 13,283
3rd Seminole War 1855-1858 26
Civil War 1861-1865 623,026
Indian Wars 1865-1898 919
Spanish-American War 1898 2,446
Philippine War 1898-1902 4,196
Boxer Rebellion 1900-1901 37
Mexican Revolution 1914-1919 35
Haiti Occupation 1915-1934 146
World War 1 1917-1918 116,708
World War 2 1941-1945 407,316
Korean War 1950-1953 36,914
Vietnam War 1964-1973 58,169
El Salvador 1980-1992 20
Beirut 1982-1984 266
Persian Gulf (Support) 1987-1988 39
Invasion of Grenada 1983 19
Invasion of Panama 1989 40
Persian Gulf War 1991 269
Somalia 1992-1993 43
Bosnia 1995 12
Afghanistan 2002-2011 2,229
Iraq 2003- 4,488

Oh what IF forethought had been utilized in 1983 and the trouble saved in hindsight.
http://www.morningjournal.com/articles/2011/10/26/news/doc4ea778dbc8d28244358157.txMJ vandilsmt

The little park limped along until another Mayor- Craig Foltin , Jack LaVirha ( who was still in favour of spending yet more money and walking away) , The Lorain Veterans Council, another architect Warren Finkel ( designer of Lorain City Hall ), Jon Veard, and Morning Journal editor John Cole rallied round and decided in 2006 to “bury” this little park once and for all- that is until “an Englishwoman cometh” 😉

Thank you once again to Nancy Greer and the City of Lorain Mayors office for the documentation and of course to Dan Brady for the newspaper archives

To be continued……………..

August 1, 2013 at 4:13 pm 10 comments

Veterans MEMORIAL Park- “Faulty Memory”

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Part One \
https://thatwoman.wordpress.com/2013/07/15/veterans-memorial-park-a-neglected-disgrace-again/

Part Two
https://thatwoman.wordpress.com/2013/07/17/veterans-memorial-park-the-name-game/

Part Three
https://thatwoman.wordpress.com/2013/07/25/veterans-memorial-park-the-englishman-commeth/

Part Four
https://thatwoman.wordpress.com/2013/07/27/veterans-memorial-park-history-tear-down/

Part Five
https://thatwoman.wordpress.com/2013/07/29/veterans-memorial-park-the-veterans-council-speaks/

We once again fast forward back in time to the late 1970″s early 1980″s when it seems after the “renaming of Washington Avenue Park- to Lorain Memorial Park ” .
Mr. Jack LaVriha, the associations he headed and the various affiliated organizations went back to the then city administration and the council to “fix up” the park.
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ED NOTE: We are still searching for dialogue and correspondence from that era.

But according to the Plain Dealer article July 16th 1990 ( more later on that article)
it states:

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How did we get to the Plain Dealer article of 1990- with Jack LaVirha -just 5 short years after hundreds of thousand of dollars were spent- calling the park

boodoggle

In 1983 the first “emergency ordinance” we have found so far states:

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Not to exceed “$170.000
Full PDF file found here

1983
The “news” paper trail starts here : Chronicle Telegram
Sept 13 1983 and then a week later
Sept 20th 1983 cropped

NOTE: Somewhere in between 1966 renaming of Washington (Ave) Park to Lorain Memorial Park , the ordinance in January of 1983 still calls the park “Washington Park”- the September 13th newspaper account refers to the name as Veterans Memorial Park

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So the question then begs to be answered when was the official name change???? May 22nd 1984 finds yet another article and more money?

PDF file of newspaper found here

MAY 22 1984
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and then it starts to get interesting that amount of no more $170,000.00 is growing like topsy and the blame game starts :

From the Chronicle Telegram : June 26th 1984 PDF file found here JUNE 26 1984

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City Council members are angered by the amount of time it has taken to rehabilitate the park, and also are discouraged with the Lorain Veterans Council for Civic Improvements, which originally said it would help finance construction. But according to Safety Director Anthony Murello, also a member of the veterans group, the council believed the city had the necessary funds for the completion. “We were led to believe by Frank Mason (former Community Development director) that we had all the money,” Murello said.
HE SAID that the veterans were told this during a public meeting in March 1983, adding that the meeting’s minutes can- not be found. Murello said the park’s condition should be blamed not only on the veterans, but also on the former City Council and Mason

ED Note Frank Mason was the Community Development Director during the early 1980’s due to the firing of Sanford Prudoff

July 3 1984: The Chronicle Telegram once again follows the story – PDF file found here JULY 3 1984

July 3rd 1984

But Skimin believes Council was “had” by the Lorain Veterans’ Council for Civic Improvements, a group of men who originally said they would help finance the park. “I think it ought to stay there as some sort of monument of Council being gullible,” he said. “What we heard from them was not true.” Skimin believes that because council was “had” it should investigate why a promise “never came true.”
OTHER COUNCILMEN agreed with Skimin, saying they do not like to see so many federal dollars going toward a park with the veterans’ name on it. Ross was the only one who supported Skimin with a vote, saying “It should be called Block Grant or Community Development park.”

ordinance 6th5 1985

In May of 1985 yet more money was given to the park and to the Vets Council yet another $50 thousand

SO HOW IS THAT JUST 5 YEARS LATER IN THE PLAIN DEALER ARTICLE – JACK LAVIRHA AND THE VETERANS COUNCIL ARE CALLING THIS PARK THEY MANAGED TO GET “$500,000 OF IMPROVEMENTS FOR “BAD NEWS”

ED NOTE: Once again thanks has to go to Dan Brady for all the newspaper articles and to Nancy Greer ( Clerk of Council) for the ordinances and minutes

TO BE CONTINUED …………………

July 31, 2013 at 11:11 am 3 comments

Veteran’s MEMORIAL Park- The Veterans Council speaks

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Part One \
https://thatwoman.wordpress.com/2013/07/15/veterans-memorial-park-a-neglected-disgrace-again/

Part Two
https://thatwoman.wordpress.com/2013/07/17/veterans-memorial-park-the-name-game/

Part Three
https://thatwoman.wordpress.com/2013/07/25/veterans-memorial-park-the-englishman-commeth/

Part Four
https://thatwoman.wordpress.com/2013/07/27/veterans-memorial-park-history-tear-down/
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Once again it is with thanks to Dan Brady and his research as to the not so “swinging sixties” for what was up until this time Gilmore/Reid , Public Square, Washington Avenue Park ( Washington Park )
Dan Brady wrote about the World War Two Monument here
http://danielebrady.blogspot.com/2011/05/veterans-monument.html
and what happened to the World War Two Honor Roll in the mid sixties
http://danielebrady.blogspot.com/2012/06/honor-roll-in-washington-park-june-1964.html

Not only were changes being made in the park it seems Jack LaVriha in his capacity of Chairman of the Lorain Memorial Association disagreed with an objection at a public hearing on changing the name of Washington (Ave) Park to LORAIN MEMORIAL PARK- he stated the Lorain Memorial association was comprised according to him of 14 Veterans Association , auxiliaries , churches schools, patriotic organizations and of the 5,000 veterans had 100% backing to change the name and that is apparently what happened according to the minutes

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(Ed Note – Once again thank you to Nancy Greer Clerk of Council for her help in tracking down these minutes. Unfortunately we cannot seem to find the next name change ordinance a fact we will explore in Part 7)

So in 1967 a new monument to those who served in “ALL WARS” was erected with much respect and ceremony.
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Courtesy of Dan Brady
http://danielebrady.blogspot.com/2011/05/veterans-monument.html

How sad that same monument is being allowed to be used as a urinal a few decades later –
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ED NOTE:where are the Veteran’s organizations, churches , schools and patriotic organizations today????

Jack LaVriha
http://chronicle.northcoastnow.com/2008/05/15/jack-e-lavriha-2/
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And now we moved on to the next decades where there was much ado and much money involved……… and at the center of this movement was Jack LaVriha and the various organizations …..

July 29, 2013 at 10:25 pm 1 comment

Veteran’s MEMORIAL Park- history tear down

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Original photo of arial view 1937 courtesy Dan Brady

Part One : https://thatwoman.wordpress.com/2013/07/15/veterans-memorial-park-a-neglected-disgrace-again/

Part Two:
https://thatwoman.wordpress.com/2013/07/17/veterans-memorial-park-the-name-game/

Part Three:
https://thatwoman.wordpress.com/2013/07/25/veterans-memorial-park-the-englishman-commeth/

Thanks to the research of fellow blogger Dan Brady and his interest in the “civil war statue and fountain ” we know what happened to George Wickens “Pride”.

http://danielebrady.blogspot.com/search?q=Washington+Park

The fountain was still a feature in 1908
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However roll on a couple of decades and this :

https://thatwoman.wordpress.com/2010/10/18/history-mystery-one-mans-tourism-anothers-flower-bed/

tear down

and they were so “proud” of what they had done-

after

The poor old soldier went on being “spruced up” through the 50’s – in 1951 and 1959- and some bright spark painted him –

civil war collage and not to be outdone local vandals decided that since someone had already stolen the rifle he should be holding something so literally a “babe in arms”

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ED NOTE – Please read Dan Brady’s posts on the Park and the soldier for the rest of the story.

Needless to say eventually we were left with “nothing but a flower bed”. But in 1964 the Veterans Council started to take an interest…….

You can also find the story of the disappearing and appearing monuments on Dan’s blog
http://danielebrady.blogspot.com/2012/06/honor-roll-in-washington-park-june-1964.html
VP6 Daughters of Union Veterans monument

Sadly now, in a forlorn little “public square of “memory” , is an urn which once stood near to where the fountain once stood, – erected by the Daughters of the Union in 1930- it stands still today a little unkempt but someone cared to plant flowers. The little urn is the only remembrance left of a civil war and of General Quincy Adams Gilmore ( yes! son of the same family who first gave part of their acreage to a little settlement on the river for a public square and whose homestead is now Lakeview Park) is only remembered in letters posted upon this blog
https://thatwoman.wordpress.com/2011/04/13/civil-war-letters-fannie-gilmore-lorain/

Sorry George !

PART 5 TO BE CONTINUED

July 27, 2013 at 1:32 pm 1 comment

Veterans MEMORIAL Park- The Englishman commeth

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Part One :

https://thatwoman.wordpress.com/2013/07/15/veterans-memorial-park-a-neglected-disgrace-again/
Part Two:

https://thatwoman.wordpress.com/2013/07/17/veterans-memorial-park-the-name-game/

TIME MARCHES ON AND 1901 FINDS ANOTHER ENGLISHMAN ( AS OPPOSED TO THAT ENGLISHWOMAN) WANTING SOMETHING DONE ABOUT THE PARK!

Dan Brady of Brady’s Bunch Blog did a series of articles on George Wickens and Veterans Memorial Park and they can be found here
http://danielebrady.blogspot.com/search?q=Wickens

and

http://danielebrady.blogspot.com/search?q=Washington+Park

George was an “Englishman” born south of London in a town called Basingstoke. Maybe he brought with him the Englishman love of gardens, order, culture, and “class” . Who knows? I would like to think his background had something to do with the fact he “noticed things and did something about them”- Pride Day back in the Day- attributable to George Wickens
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“If the suggestions of the board of trade are carried out, Lorain will have regular days set apart each fall and spring as holiday clean-up days. Health Officer Hug, at the meeting last night spoke of the necessity of such a move. “To those who have occasion to pass the alleys and back yards about the city it becomes at once apparent that the conditions are decidedly unsanitary, unsightly and very offensive to aesthetic natures.

AH the precursor of Lorain Pride Day!!!!

ED: NOTE- We could be speaking about TODAY in Lorain- OH GEORGE WHERE FOR ART THOU GEORGE?

Clean-up days was a hobby with George Wickens, and a mighty good one, too, and I think it would be an advisable thing to have the city carry out his suggestions. Clean-up day should become a regular institution each spring and fall.””

and
The suggestion by Dr. Hug was to be presented as a resolution to Mayor King. ED NOTE: OH NO! I WONDER WHAT GEORGE AND MAYOR KING WOULD SAY TO THE STATE OF MAYOR KING’S HOUSE ?????

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In May 1901, Lorain’s Public Square was a weedy, unkempt mess – and George Wickens, the former mayor and now a member of City Council, was unhappy about it. As reported in mid-May in the Lorain Times-Herald, Wickens stated that the park was a disgrace to the city, and he felt that it should be fixed up before the Fourth of July. At Wickens’ urging, a motion was passed by City Council to take money from the park fund to accomplish this goal.

Work began on the Public Square at once. The grass was mowed, and plans were prepared by Chief Engineer Loofbourrow for paths to be built, curving from each corner of the square and meeting at the bandstand in the center.
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The soldiers monument and fountain
as it appeared in the J. L. Mott catalog

But Wickens thought something else was needed for the Public Square: a fountain. He began to try to get Jason B. Hoge, a former resident of Lorain (and later a director of the Lake Shore Electric Railway Company) to donate one. Hoge was about to order a fountain when the Lorain Post of the Grand Army of the Republic made it known that they wished to combine the fountain with something they also felt was needed: a soldiers monument.

Mr. Hoge offered to contribute one quarter of the amount of a fountain and soldiers monument costing not more than $1,000. The balance of the sum would have to be raised by the citizens of Lorain and turned over to the G.A.R. for the actual purchase.

It took a summer-long community effort to raise the money, but the fountain was finally ordered from J. L. Mott Company.

With much fanfare and an onlooking crowd of 5,000, the combined soldiers monument and fountain was dedicated on the Public Square on Labor Day, September 2, 1901.
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Oh Dear George and what do you think they did with your idea?

Part four to be continued…….

Note thanks to Dan Brady for the use of his jpgs.

July 25, 2013 at 11:54 pm 6 comments

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