The Wayback machine- is a lesson not learned

February 26, 2016 at 4:38 pm 9 comments

Due to a need to find some documentation for someone , I recently had cause to go through three of my old hard drives. I tend to be rough on computers and especially key boards .

I soon realized in previous writings on the word of mouth blog and the Wom Blog , – now defunct and off-limits to the general public- the very important links – linked in the writings of the time – have now disappeared from the internet as well.

The Plain Dealer, Morning Journal, Chronicle Telegram articles (locally) are no longer a click away. They aren’t alone, links to so many “sources” have now disappeared- who says the internet is forever? I am sure that if I went to the library and trolled through the archives I would be able to find the original on microfiche etc -but who has time to do that?

For some unknown reason I did copy and paste an awful lot of material. However from 1998 until 2002 -I have downloads on floppys ( never understood why they were called that). I have an atrocious filing system ( read no system at all) which means looking for something means trolling through a plethora of files I have downloaded through, what has now become, decades.

As I have been trolling through, I came across situations I had been a part of that I deemed important enough to save. I soon realized most of those situations where I had thought to make a difference in the past 10,12, 15 years – things remained the same. I trolled through the Eastern Shawnee Sovereign land deal to get money and the spending of money to get a seat at the table with the big boys- that didn’t work out- but we sure spent a hell of a lot of money for the appetizers. Although the names changed the spending money to get money

behaviors continue – read Judges and Elyria Court House.

The legal battle has also been pricey. The law firm representing the judges billed the county for $254,407, while the commissioners’ lawyers charged $73,404, according to figures provided by county Budget Director Lisa Hobart.

The Lorain jail issue -where did the money go, the historic park for condos and the bringing back of Lorain’s “downtown” 2005- 2006- even farther back than that- and we are still saying the same things – different faces, different voices – the fight to keep our neighborhoods safe.

In 2005 a young girl was attacked on her way to school. There was a blame game going on at the time – however it was the neighborhood , the derelict and abandoned housing, the number of RSO’s flooding into the area from Compass House causing the greatest concern . The community rallied and we tried- held forums, with an ultimate goal – which in the end -failed

Notes from the Community Roundtable June 28th 2005

The following notes are an overview of the meeting and are not meant to represent official minutes.


The Executive Board of Charleston Village Society Inc. asked various representatives to attend an informal “roundtable discussion”. The main concern is the safety of our young people as they are going through our neighborhoods. An individual heightened the concern due to the recent attacks as the young girls were heading toward school.

Charleston Village’s concerns are two fold. While the Lorain City Schools have implemented programs and resources to keep our students out of harms way whilst they are in school and on or around the school property and the City Of Lorain Police Dept. have been extremely involved with the school safety issue, both Lorain City Schools and the Lorain Police Dept. are restricted in their parameters. Charleston Village felt that there is a gap and that is the neighborhoods themselves that the young people live and have to travel through in order to reach their schools. Lorain City schools has over 10,000 students attending Lorain Public Schools – that is just under one sixth of the population of Lorain needing to be free from harm.

While some neighborhoods have implemented Block Watch programs and Neighborhood watch, there is a gap as these particular attacks happened during the day when most people who are involved with such programs are at work. Charleston Village wanted to address this “gap” in the safety net. We asked Rev Donahue of the Christian Temple Disciples of Christ and representative of the Downtown Ministries to facilitate the meeting. Charleston Village then contacted various stakeholders in the community to attend.

school lockdown
Yesterday back in this neighborhood Schools were once again locked down Morning Journal
Lorain police looking for man who attempted to abduct children

At a noon news conference at the Lorain Police Department, Detective Sgt. Buddy Sivert said the first incident occurred around 6 a.m. in the area of Washington Avenue and West Ninth Street. The suspect allegedly grabbed the female teen by the arm, made a threatening comment and punched the girl twice when she tried to get away.

Sivert said the girl was uninjured. Witnesses saw the suspect flee west on West Eighth Street.

The suspect is described as a white male roughly 5-feet 10-inches to 6-feet tall, in his mid-20s to mid-30s. He was said to be wearing a black jacket with a hood, dark jeans, dark shoes, dark gloves and possibly a mask over his face, Sivert said.

The second incident occurred a little more than an hour later around 7:20 a.m. in the area of Oberlin Avenue and West Eighth. According to Sivert, the suspect exposed himself and followed the female into someone’s front yard before fleeing westbound on West Eighth.

A short time later around 7:46 a.m. in the area of West 18th Street and Oakdale, the suspect grabbed another female teen from behind before fleeing eastbound on West 18th, Sivert said.
“I believe one was a middle school student and the others are possibly elementary students,” he said. “ We don’t know for sure, but we feel they were grabbed in a sexual manner.”

Chronicle Telegram
Sivert said extra patrols were in the area and detectives were asking residents and businesses in the area that may have captured video of the incidents to call police.

None of the victims mentioned a vehicle, so the suspect was likely on foot, Sivert said.

Sivert said there’s nothing other than a similar suspect description to tie the Lorain incidents to what happened in Elyria, nor to the incident last week in which 2-year-old Lorain resident Lana Lowther went missing for four hours.

I wish we had made a difference in those intervening 11 years- we didn’t
Oh! we now have an Administration that is taking down and dealing with the abandoned and most derelict of homes but it is a slow process. We have a Housing Court

which, in my opinion. needs some teeth or at least some intestinal fortitude with dealing with mega property owners and their issues – aka “accountability “.

We didn’t make a dent in the number of RSO or Adult parolees in the neighborhood, infact they have doubled in part of the neighborhood from that time .
We have within two miles of the attacks ( 1/3 of that area being the lake )
97 offenders in 83 locations

and 64 parolees . for all sorts of lovely crimes


I wish we hadn’t failed – done more , I wish I had the key so that the children of this neighborhood, going to school had only to worry about their grades…………

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  • 1. Don KIllinger  |  February 26, 2016 at 5:05 pm

    Since we cannot have a officer on every corner watching everything, then we must rely on neighbors and parents watching out for children in the neighborhoods. We as a community need to be concerned about each other and each others’ property, and be ready to take positive steps to prevent a crime.

  • 2. thatwoman  |  February 26, 2016 at 5:29 pm

    Problem is the neighborhood holds many transient rentals who stay for a short time and move on – do not get involved- we also have a plethora of RSO’s those on Adult Parole- and also many of those that care are working or going to work during the day- same as it was 11 years ago I don’t have the answers — I wish I did

  • 3. Don KIllinger  |  February 26, 2016 at 6:28 pm

    You are right, it is such a transient community in our neighborhoods. Leading to an unstable community at best. I guess we have to do the best we can and continue to set an example and keep talking the talk and walking the walk!!!

  • 4. Dr. Tammy  |  February 26, 2016 at 6:30 pm

    I think you did make a difference! We may have sexual offenders and parolees, but today the police and the community know where they live! Twenty years ago, we didn’t have the information you provided. Of course, this is the double edged sword, because people buying houses who form the communities of the past and the future, have this information too. They select areas to bring their families by checking on the web for this sort of information. So even though Lorain is safer than most cities of the same size, the perception, based on the internet, doesn’t give the entire picture.

  • 5. thatwoman  |  February 26, 2016 at 7:02 pm

    the problem is Tammy WE did have this information 11 years ago – and tried so hard to make a difference – and although some positives came from that round table we really didn’t make a dent in the community – I am so sad that perception becomes reality and we chase our tails…. As I said I haven’t any answers and no outside the box thinking anymore – maybe shaking my head too many times has caused issues with brain cells…..I guess the positive is that people are still trying and that is a good thing….

  • 6. thatwoman  |  February 26, 2016 at 7:05 pm

    Don, it gladdens my heart to see the Auxiliary officers every day at Constellation Schools in the old Irving School Building – hopefully their presence is also noted by the “evil doers”

  • 7. Renee Dore  |  February 26, 2016 at 9:21 pm

    There are many vacant homes that are not secured ( missing or broken windows, wide open front and back doors) in so many of the neighborhoods. Many have been reported on via councilpersons, building dept. and Safety Service dept. One that comes to mind is on the corner of West Erie and Hamilton ave. across from the American Legion. The downstairs west window has been wide open for almost 1/2 year. It would take little effort to grab a child and take her ( or him) inside this house! The light is on upstairs-has been on for months inside this vacant structure. This house is evidently tied up in housing court as many many are. There are lovely small children nearby this structure. It’s frightening. There needs to be a swift way to get the unsecured rotten properties that have been reported upon secured in a timely manner-not waiting 6 months to 2 years for the owners/attorneys and courts to go through the red tape! It’s hideous and creepy and uncalled for. There has to be money someplace out there to help with this program. All the while in the time it takes for these homes to be reported upon, inspected, declared unsafe, go through the lawful channels of notification & court procedural steps, the houses sit, decay further, destroy our neighborhoods, and offer creepy people places to live and do their dirty work. A better solution needs to be discussed and initiated to at least have the ability to secure the open abandoned garages, unlocked back and front doors, and open/broken downstairs windows as soon as possible after the houses are reported on. It’s a serious problem and needs addressed.

  • 8. thatwoman  |  February 26, 2016 at 9:24 pm

    I was thinking about that house the other day – I thought it had gone through the demo process only to have it appealing in the Demo appeals process- that had to have been a couple of years ago ….

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