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When Vision is “cloudy” Property Holding LLCs- NY TIMES

“It” was the Icon House of West Erie and for the Point of Sale poster child- No one would go through POS to buy this house !
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A great deal has been written about this house on this blog and elsewhere

Morning Journal Headlines

Lorain house sets record with $45,750 escrow requirement by R. Payerchin June 2014 – we are now in 2016 and end of August

http://www.morningjournal.com/general-news/20140620/lorain-house-sets-record-with-45750-escrow-requirement

And from that article where a real estate agent was bemoaning the Point of Sale

“It appeared the home at 1348 W. Erie Ave. could have an escrow amount that is more than the house is worth.

The home is owned by the Federal National Mortgage Association, commonly known as Fannie Mae.

The Lorain County Auditor’s Office puts the market value at $85,210, but the home’s last listing price was $36,000, said Ken Myers, the real estate agent who last had the house for sale.

Callers interested in the house don’t understand how it can have a listed sale price of $36,000 and a city repair requirement of $45,750, Myers said.

“It’s not wonderful in any sense of the imagination,” Myers said. “We have properties we can just not sell now. Everybody just walks away because nobody wants to put that kind of money in a house in Lorain.”

NOT every body walked away except the owner at the time Fannie Mae Mortgage… No! it was purchased February 2015 from Fannie Mae for “0” dollars apparently

Sale Date: 2/3/2015
Sale Amount: $0.00
Conveyance: 2015090327
Grantor: FEDERAL NATIONAL MORTGAGE ASSOCIATION
Grantee: KAJA HOLDINGS 2 LLC

and there in lies the rub- as Kaja had been on my radar as “buying” up homes in this “old neighborhood” and selling… SORRY leasing to own ….these properties – even our 1348 West Erie Home with another of those handmade signs-
Kaja lease to own
I won’t bore you with regurgitated information you can find the “rest of the story here !
https://thatwoman.wordpress.com/2015/09/17/the-follow-up-a-tale-of-two-houses-city-council-loraine/
https://thatwoman.wordpress.com/2015/09/11/the-housing-court-and-you-lorain-part-one/
https://thatwoman.wordpress.com/2015/10/22/housing-court-and-you-lorain-continued/

and here
https://thatwoman.wordpress.com/2016/04/07/plump-lady-plummets-and-the-housing-trip-continues/
where the “new ” attorney for Kaja in this area (presumably) is Mr. James White- who did clarify that Vision/ Kaja were not affiliated (professionally speaking) with Harbor Portfolio, the Property Company that featured heavily in the New York Times article in February-

I reached out to Mr. White a few weeks ago to see what was happening with the property at 1348 W. Erie and he stated :

Several of the violations to the exterior have been repaired. The City’s required escrow to perform the repairs has been deposited with an escrow agent with repairs to follow.

Well some good news on the 1348 house apparently but not so good news for Kaja and Vision Properties.

The New York Times and their investigative journalists ALEXANDRA STEVENSON and MATTHEW GOLDSTEIN published another hard hitting article about the blurring of the lines between landlords, renters, and the right to own ( well sometimes) the American dream or perhaps nightmare.

Remember this just isn’t a Lorain County problem these “businesses” are popping up everywhere there is a problem with mortgage dumps and the “federal connection”

.( Nearly half of Vision’s homes were bought from Fannie Mae, the government-backed mortgage firm, according to RealtyTrac. NYT- Article below)

The focus of this particular article is Vision Properties , buys homes spread across 24 states through nearly two dozen limited liability companies, all with different names like MI Seven, OH Seven and Kaja Holdings.

I would suggest looking at the video- in the article and reading thoroughly – because Lorain, we are “part of the business” and business seems to be expanding.

porter house
Another blue house – 1038 -4 blocks down from the Kaja Icon house – historic in nature – being that it was one of the Porter Ship Captain’s homes) is now owned by Princeton Commercial Holdings LLC
Sale Date: 11/17/2015
Sale Amount: $0.00
Conveyance: 2015095351
Grantor: BAYVIEW LOAN SERVICING LLC
Grantee: PRINCETON COMMERCIAL HOLDINGS LLC

I can’t believe it passed Point of Sale in November seeing that the windows are broken and boarded – especially since we have such strong ordinances as with boats and morning glories 😉 but who knows- I certainly haven’t a clue anymore as to “code of enforcement????
https://thatwoman.wordpress.com/2016/08/09/municipal-manipulation-lorain-e-again/

Zillow listing just under $45,000 ( now off the market – apparently- don’t say it SOLD!!! NO please not that………
photo source Zillow
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http://www.zillow.com/homedetails/1038-W-Erie-Ave-Lorain-OH-44052/34535192_zpid/

SHHHHHHHH don’t tell these companies that “rolled roofs on dwelling is “legal in Lorain” cause we are already singing the blues……….

August 26, 2016 at 3:49 pm 5 comments

Windows on Lorain- The Neanderthals- a “tornado” history

before

Readers will remember that last August a cretin of caveman- like behavior decided to take out their anger against me and this blog by sneaking through the shrubbery in the dead of night and hurling a chunk of concrete through the leaded glass front living room windows and ripping down a “don spout”
https://thatwoman.wordpress.com/2015/02/01/ode-to-a-downspout-named-don-lorain/
window
another view
2015-08-23 08.16.03

Such lack of intelligence knows no bounds.
https://thatwoman.wordpress.com/2015/08/23/hurled-through-the-window-retribution-who-done-it-lorain/
Not only did they take out the front window but by venting their anger on the downspout left their calling card – in my opinion-

downspout two

https://thatwoman.wordpress.com/2015/08/05/outdoor-showrooms-lorain-by-don-the-downspout/
if I ever saw one , as to the sender of the concrete message !

https://thatwoman.wordpress.com/2015/08/24/the-case-of-the-curious-lorain-neanderthal/ However, no finger prints on the concrete so I am left to my own suppositions and opinions BUT
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This was not the end of the tale. After sweeping up the shattered leaded glass ( thankfully the lead in the windows had held the concrete’s forward force ) the glass shattered 20 feet into the dining room the repair had to be done . It could’ve been more dangerous with the flying glass, someone asleep in the chair – doesn’t bear thinking about – although in all honesty “thinking” wasn’t part of this particular crime .

Fast forward after the police had left ( along with my suppositions) and the installations of many cameras recording the comings and goings around the house, alley and property , it was time for the insurance.

The insurance company had no problem with gutter/downspout repair but did not have anyone listed who could fix 90-year-old windows. Eventually they came up with a list- none of whom were close to Lorain.

I contacted a craftsman in Hinckley Ohio –



Jim Ascherl,Ascherl Studios,1616 Center Rd. Hinckley Oh 44233 330-278-4964 shop 440-223-4111 cell


and the tale of 6 degrees of separation unfolded:
A tale of a tornado hitting Lorain in 1924- the rebuilding of a community and new housing . Yes back in 1926- this old house was brand new – as were her windows.

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This was our “lot” the day after the tornado ,

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The lot was originally 66 ft wide with one house which was destroyed. History has it, a mother and daughter rebuilt two houses on the lot – sub dividing the lot to 33 ft each. The two homes have “all leaded glass windows ”
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The time of rebuilding sent a young man to Lorain to repair the leaded and stained glass windows of the churches damaged by the tornado.
http://ascherlstudios.com/History.aspx

Michael Ascherl 1928

Michael Ascherl 1928

At age 13, Michael Ascherl began working as an apprentice glazier in southern Germany. At age 16, Michael obtained Journeyman status before confiding to his boss that he wanted to learn stained glass. His boss dismissed it stating, “You’re too old to learn a new trade.” A few months later, Michael quit and promptly obtained employment with a small stained glass studio, The J. Gross Company. Michael’s duties included walking from town to town in southern Germany repairing windows. The glass rack and tool box, called a “Kraxze,” that he carried on his back over 100 years ago is proudly displayed in our showroom.

Michael immigrated to New York in the early 1900s where he met his wife before moving to Cleveland Ohio. Michael Ascherl landed employment with a commercial glass company until 1924 when a devastating tornado wiped out the downtown area of nearby Lorain Ohio. Due to extensive damage to downtown churches, Michael’s employer immediately sent him to their Lorain Ohio branch where a stained glass division was hastily set up.

first congregational chuch

For four years Michael spent his days rebuilding all of the damaged windows in the downtown churches.

In 1928, the daunting task of repairing all of the local churches was nearing its end. Michael Ascherl decided that he needed to focus on starting his own studio. Briefly named Sunset Studio, Michael later changed the name to Ascherl Studios.

This young man was Jim’s grandfather( the very artisan I had called – not knowing the connection) for my repair ; the craftsman who also used his talents to make the windows in this old house.

I was fascinated to think 90 years ago Jim’s grandfather standing in the rooms of what is now my home crafting with care these special windows. It was these windows that reminded me of England and home when I first came here, the brick and leaded “dickens windows “, as my mother calls them, drew me to this house.

Jim duly arrived and the consensus was the windows were in all certainty the work of his grandfather!

photo Dan Brady

photo Dan Brady

Also Jim has been working on the stained glass windows damaged etc when the fire totaled First Lutheran Church on 6th Street, so he was familiar with this area . This fire has been ruled arson , another Neanderthal destroying something beautiful and reverent

http://danielebrady.blogspot.com/2015/02/first-lutheran-church-directory-1966.html

A Tornado= a craftsman= leaded glass/stained glass windows= a grandson= a neighborhood church=and this old house and sometimes even destruction can bring about a good thing………

Tornado photos courtesy of Ohio Historical Society

http://ohsweb.ohiohistory.org/swio/pages/albums/1924_LorainTornado/1924_albumPage10.html

March 10, 2016 at 4:16 pm 4 comments

Lorain – Common Core? values and math? PT 4.

UPDATE: According to Lorain County the following information 2835 Pearl Ave will not be demolished and will be receiving some much needed repair work to make it a better rental or sale property.

and actually the reason given for the CDC not filing for tax exempt : ”

Also, tax exemptions can not be acquired if property is rented for profit, regardless of CDC non profit status. This is why the CDCs you mentioned did not file for property tax exemption. They were renting the majority of the properties for income; little was used for office space for the most part”

Readers might remember that is why we in Lorain are paying taxes on 642 Broadway

the then for Profit business Follow the Fish rented ???? the space https://www.facebook.com/FollowTheFishArtAndAdventureTrails I have no update on that aspect of their business arrangement with the City of Lorain since the article April 15 2015 ( oh my ironically tax day) https://thatwoman.wordpress.com/2015/04/15/money-for-old-rope-a-taxpayers-question/

Part Onehttps://thatwoman.wordpress.com/2015/06/15/lorain-common-core-values-and-math-pt-1/
Part Two-https://thatwoman.wordpress.com/2015/06/22/lorain-common-core-values-and-math-pt-2/
Part Three- https://thatwoman.wordpress.com/2015/06/25/lorain-common-core-values-and-math-pt-3/

Community Development – not for CVSI- the math doesn’t add up!

artwork Chris Ritchey

artwork Chris Ritchey


Oh! back in the days of ” we can do this – we can make a difference” the Charleston Village members knew we had a tough job if we were to turn this neighborhood around. We knew we weren’t popular with the Community Development Dept. at the time.


” They (CVSI) are nothing but a middle class clique”

according to Chuck Urindriski(sp)

I won’t go into telling you the obstacles that were put in our way by Community Development Dept. at the time. Why? when they were bending over backwards to get South Lorain group recognized as a CDC

“A community development corporation (CDC) is a not-for-profit organization incorporated to provide programs, offer services and engage in other activities that promote and support community development. CDCs usually serve a geographic location such as a neighborhood or a town. They often focus on serving lower-income residents or struggling neighborhoods. They can be involved in a variety of activities including economic development, education, community organizing and real estate development. These organizations are often associated with the development of affordable housing.”

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South Lorain CDC- description :
http://www.loraincounty.com/slcdc/

“The South Lorain Community Development Corporation assists homebuyers by providing new and rehabilitated housing opportunities for low-mod income, market rate and first-time, income qualified families and individuals. The SLCDC promotes and encourages private sector commercial investment in the South Lorain Neighborhood.”

1850 Washington

And then there was Community Development bending over backwards for Direct Action for Central Lorain http://www.loraincounty.com/directory/display_5235.html

Direct Action, a non-profit, builds and rehabs commercial and residential properties to generate revenue to provide home ownership counseling, educational and safety programming, youth recreational programs, and other activities to revitalize the Central Lorain neighborhood.”

cityhall castle
You would have thought with the interest Community Development had in apparently recognizing the historic worth of “downtown Lorain” and putting in the tools back in 1987- their interest in South Lorain ( a struggling neighborhood and business community) and Central Lorain- also a struggling neighborhood and business community- the mere fact a whole group of people were banding together in a grass-roots effort to promote, stabilize , research the history and therefore historic tax credits etc. and use our own money to rehab the homes would have been met with delight! Far from it!
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Once again, we were naïve, we didn’t understand the unwritten rules- no place for this grass-roots group- we had no paid Director ( through government funding) , we were a democratic volunteer organization – the will of the majority- and therefore it seemed the proverbial loose cannon and maybe just maybe this “middle class clique would not fit the “plan”- lack of “control” and we asked too many questions – did not accept the status quo ( in my opinion that is having dealt with Community Development as it was for decades.)

It was the mere fact Lorain Community Development Dept. (at the time) put so many obstacles in our way and were very unhelpful when we went to them for advice etc. we exist today. We basically said, fine we will do it ourselves. You see we had people in the “village” who had expertise in various areas of government, research and who knew the protocol.
Homes tour
We raised money through opening our homes, put in our own money and did the paperwork for our own 501c3. It wasn’t easy, we as a neighborhood were unique, according to the IRS because we had not gone through the regular route of “local government” such as South Lorain CDC and Direct Action. But we managed independently of Sandy Prudoff, Chuck Urindriski(sp) and company of the City of Lorain Community Development Dept. and in 1993 we received , after a great deal of paperwork, our 501c3 and incorporation.

We were never listed on the City of Lorain website as one of their sponsored , non -profits, CDC’s or organizations such as South Lorain CDC, Direct Action CDC and Lorain Growth Corp. CVSI – never received or applied any monies from Community Development – contrary to some of that opinion! But whenever a grass-roots organization was needed for a study or grant funding- we were the first to be contacted.

We have however, through the years sent them a copy of our Annual Report and our Tax Filing status. In fact we have had in recent years after the Foltin administration( which was adversarial in nature) a partnership with the City of Lorain. A partnership which continues today ( hopefully) .

I believe our independent nature ruffled more than a few feathers. We have never received any of the numerous grants as did South Lorain CDC- For example The Stocker Foundation write in their report of 2007 they had given $15,000 to South Lorain CDC using the new houses built in their Annual report
stockeres
Curious I went to the Lorain County Auditors site to see what had happened to those properties knowing the South Lorain CDC IS NO LONGER A CDC , NON- PROFIT OR ORGANIZATION.

It seems the city had transferred these properties over to the South Lorain CDC in 2006– they were transferred back to the city in 2011 and then the city transferred them to Direct Action of Central Lorain.

Direct Action of Central Lorain has also received numerous grants throughout the years as an example another of Stocker Foundations annual reports 2008
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Memory came back into play concerning issues with the City of Lorain and Direct Action-
http://chronicle.northcoastnow.com/2013/08/14/action-slow-for-lorain-houses-demolition/

“Mason said earlier this month that he was frustrated by the delay and that Direct Action was slow to provide paperwork regarding the use of HUD money without producing new houses.

“Something doesn’t smell right,” Mason said of Direct Action, which owns 13 properties in Lorain besides the Lakeview property, according to the Lorain County auditor’s website”

That Woman decided to check the auditors site this morning and to her chagrin found Direct Action of Central Lorain owned 15 properties
DAres
I say to my chagrin because Direct Action of Central Lorain owes over $77,000 in back taxes on those properties and has seemingly done for many years:

1015 West 14th- $4,033.48 annual tax bill $489.22
1140 West 18th -$7,589.57 annual tax bill $622.54
1722 Washington -$4,466.16 annual tax bill $877.40
Washington lots – $2,469.21 annual tax bill $157.72
Direct Action headquarters 1850 Washington – $47,828.35 annual tax bill $819.60

1849 Washington -$5,222.13 annual tax bill $509.46
1037 W 22ns – $5,437.60 annual tax bill $751.10

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THAT CAN’T BE RIGHT – DIRECT ACTION IS A NOT FOR PROFIT AND THEREFORE DOESN’T HAVE TO PAY PROPERTY TAXES.
I contacted the City of Lorain – I was told the City of Lorain cancelled their contract with Direct Action ( CDC) in August of 2013.
So I contacted the Lorain County Auditors office. There wasn’t any paperwork filed for tax exempt status on any of these properties – OH! OH! been there and done that before .
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Howard Goldberg of Lorain Community Development Dept.
http://www.morningjournal.com/general-news/20121210/updated-goldberg-resigns-lorain-city-post-under-cloud
had neglected to file exempt status on over a dozen properties- a fact brought to light when Black River Historical Society ( now Lorain Historical Society) was caught up in the mess see pages 4 and 5 in the following PDF

http://www.loraincounty.com/lorain/agendas/2008/December_4_2008_packet.pdf

Looks like somebody didn’t do due diligence and the paperwork to file exemptions on these properties belonging to Direct Action of Central Lorain.
No exemptions – no taxes …. Oh Lorain all that money and what do we have to show for it?

Ironically, Patrick Metzger who used to be the Director of South Lorain CDC , now in charge of

“The county’s Land Reutilization Corp. — most refer to it as the land bank — was incorporated in May 2012 as a way to deal with structures in need of demolition, identify tax-delinquent properties and redevelop those properties to restore them to their “tax-paying, useful life,” says Patrick Metzger, assistant director of the land bank and director of the Lorain County Port Authority, which is its administrative agent.

will be taking down his old headquarters as 2835 Pearl Ave,( which also owed back taxes. The old South Lorain CDC offices is now owned by LORAIN COUNTY LAND REUTILIZATION CORPORATION and owed
Unpaid Taxes: $39,355.90
Full Year Tax(includes any unpaid taxes & special assessments): $43,396.95
Total Taxes Paid to Date: $0.00 (once again according to the Auditors website.)

Guess South Lorain CDC didn’t file for an exemption either with the Lorain County Auditor and now it has been taken for TAXES???? among other issues I am sure!

My head is beginning to ache BUT good news is Charleston Village Society gets a PASS– We succeeded in our paperwork and managing to stay “profitable ” for the past 22 years we have been a non-profit without a paid Director, without grants and without relying on the previous Community Development Dept.

We have been transparent in all our dealings and reports – we didn’t fudge numbers and we didn’t and haven’t budgeted on “projected income” and when we spent money , every dollar went toward the designated project. We may not have much but we still have it and our records with the IRS are up to date.
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June 30, 2015 at 6:23 pm 5 comments

CH-CH_CCHANGES- SOME GOOD SOME NOT SO GOOD -LORAIN

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The face of a founder TR Bowen when one was proud to claim ownership of their Broadway Building( 430 Broadway)- no hidden LLC here !
photo Lisa Miller Lorain 365

As with everything else as soon as I start to write a post on one aspect of Lorain and I start- only to be sent off of the original concept on another journey of discovery.

I am putting together a booklet for Charleston Village Society’s – promotions and outreach committee, they are basically CVSI’s speakers bureau. Since we have two upcoming events/programs and in the need of updated handouts, I have been immersed in the research for some photos both in our files and on the web. I came across more information on my favorite Lorain Hero and Captain- Captain Wilford . I truly believe his story is the stuff books and films are made of-.

https://thatwoman.wordpress.com/2008/02/12/capt-wilford-a-hero-of-the-inland-seas/

wilford house
His home, which should be embraced by Lorain’s city and county governments , historical societies , pointed to with pride is, as readers of
Who is Who in the 052.
are already aware a rental now with an RSO – but I digress

One photo of Broadway ( back in the day) on the web took me to
broadway Buusiness 1885 D Brady

Lorain Street Railway Blog. and there I stayed for the next couple of hours, leaving my own job of work to do on this blog and my coffee to get cold.
You really must pay this site a visit if you haven’t already.http://www.lakeshorerailmaps.com/lsry.html
There was my Captain!!!!!- along with Frank Vernam and George Clark listed as Founders of the Lorain Street Railway
Source Drew Penfield
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The opportunity for improved transportation in Lorain caught the attention of eight local businessmen, who organized the Lorain Street Railway to connect the town’s business district to the factory and neighborhood south of town. The list of the founders is a who’s who of Lorain’s business community at the time. Thomas R. Bowen was a tailor and proprietor of the Union Clothing Store on Broadway;

Frank B. Vernam served as mayor of Lorain from October 1877 to April 1878, and was a real estate broker;

Thomas Wilford and Robert Crowley were lake captains of wide renown; Irwin D. Lawler established and edited the first newspapers in both Lorain and Amherst, and was also a real estate broker and attorney;

Note: you can find the Lawler ( The Leo) tragedy here

https://thatwoman.wordpress.com/category/the-leo/

John B. Tunte (ED note: also killed by the sinking of the Leo) was the leading grocer in town and a real estate broker in partnership with Lawler; Walter Root was a farmer and member of a pioneering family involved in various business ventures in town, including a feed store and a bank. The final investor is listed as “H.F. Borrow”, but may have been Henry Barrows – proprietor of the Lorain Flouring Mills on Broadway. Thomas Bowen was elected president of the new company, while Frank Vernam served as manager and superintendent of the railway.

So thanks to the Lorain Street Railway I went off the track again…….. to be continued

October 7, 2013 at 12:38 pm 6 comments

Veterans MEMORIAL Park- “Faulty Memory”

Washinton ave park one

NOTE: Click on images to enlarge

Part One \
https://thatwoman.wordpress.com/2013/07/15/veterans-memorial-park-a-neglected-disgrace-again/

Part Two
https://thatwoman.wordpress.com/2013/07/17/veterans-memorial-park-the-name-game/

Part Three
https://thatwoman.wordpress.com/2013/07/25/veterans-memorial-park-the-englishman-commeth/

Part Four
https://thatwoman.wordpress.com/2013/07/27/veterans-memorial-park-history-tear-down/

Part Five
https://thatwoman.wordpress.com/2013/07/29/veterans-memorial-park-the-veterans-council-speaks/

We once again fast forward back in time to the late 1970″s early 1980″s when it seems after the “renaming of Washington Avenue Park- to Lorain Memorial Park ” .
Mr. Jack LaVriha, the associations he headed and the various affiliated organizations went back to the then city administration and the council to “fix up” the park.
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ED NOTE: We are still searching for dialogue and correspondence from that era.

But according to the Plain Dealer article July 16th 1990 ( more later on that article)
it states:

1970s' quote

How did we get to the Plain Dealer article of 1990- with Jack LaVirha -just 5 short years after hundreds of thousand of dollars were spent- calling the park

boodoggle

In 1983 the first “emergency ordinance” we have found so far states:

ordinance 1983 res

Not to exceed “$170.000
Full PDF file found here

1983
The “news” paper trail starts here : Chronicle Telegram
Sept 13 1983 and then a week later
Sept 20th 1983 cropped

NOTE: Somewhere in between 1966 renaming of Washington (Ave) Park to Lorain Memorial Park , the ordinance in January of 1983 still calls the park “Washington Park”- the September 13th newspaper account refers to the name as Veterans Memorial Park

Erie ave Washinton park one

So the question then begs to be answered when was the official name change???? May 22nd 1984 finds yet another article and more money?

PDF file of newspaper found here

MAY 22 1984
May 194

and then it starts to get interesting that amount of no more $170,000.00 is growing like topsy and the blame game starts :

From the Chronicle Telegram : June 26th 1984 PDF file found here JUNE 26 1984

June 1984vets

City Council members are angered by the amount of time it has taken to rehabilitate the park, and also are discouraged with the Lorain Veterans Council for Civic Improvements, which originally said it would help finance construction. But according to Safety Director Anthony Murello, also a member of the veterans group, the council believed the city had the necessary funds for the completion. “We were led to believe by Frank Mason (former Community Development director) that we had all the money,” Murello said.
HE SAID that the veterans were told this during a public meeting in March 1983, adding that the meeting’s minutes can- not be found. Murello said the park’s condition should be blamed not only on the veterans, but also on the former City Council and Mason

ED Note Frank Mason was the Community Development Director during the early 1980’s due to the firing of Sanford Prudoff

July 3 1984: The Chronicle Telegram once again follows the story – PDF file found here JULY 3 1984

July 3rd 1984

But Skimin believes Council was “had” by the Lorain Veterans’ Council for Civic Improvements, a group of men who originally said they would help finance the park. “I think it ought to stay there as some sort of monument of Council being gullible,” he said. “What we heard from them was not true.” Skimin believes that because council was “had” it should investigate why a promise “never came true.”
OTHER COUNCILMEN agreed with Skimin, saying they do not like to see so many federal dollars going toward a park with the veterans’ name on it. Ross was the only one who supported Skimin with a vote, saying “It should be called Block Grant or Community Development park.”

ordinance 6th5 1985

In May of 1985 yet more money was given to the park and to the Vets Council yet another $50 thousand

SO HOW IS THAT JUST 5 YEARS LATER IN THE PLAIN DEALER ARTICLE – JACK LAVIRHA AND THE VETERANS COUNCIL ARE CALLING THIS PARK THEY MANAGED TO GET “$500,000 OF IMPROVEMENTS FOR “BAD NEWS”

ED NOTE: Once again thanks has to go to Dan Brady for all the newspaper articles and to Nancy Greer ( Clerk of Council) for the ordinances and minutes

TO BE CONTINUED …………………

July 31, 2013 at 11:11 am 2 comments

Veteran’s MEMORIAL Park- history tear down

park 1937
Original photo of arial view 1937 courtesy Dan Brady

Part One : https://thatwoman.wordpress.com/2013/07/15/veterans-memorial-park-a-neglected-disgrace-again/

Part Two:
https://thatwoman.wordpress.com/2013/07/17/veterans-memorial-park-the-name-game/

Part Three:
https://thatwoman.wordpress.com/2013/07/25/veterans-memorial-park-the-englishman-commeth/

Thanks to the research of fellow blogger Dan Brady and his interest in the “civil war statue and fountain ” we know what happened to George Wickens “Pride”.

http://danielebrady.blogspot.com/search?q=Washington+Park

The fountain was still a feature in 1908
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However roll on a couple of decades and this :

https://thatwoman.wordpress.com/2010/10/18/history-mystery-one-mans-tourism-anothers-flower-bed/

tear down

and they were so “proud” of what they had done-

after

The poor old soldier went on being “spruced up” through the 50’s – in 1951 and 1959- and some bright spark painted him –

civil war collage and not to be outdone local vandals decided that since someone had already stolen the rifle he should be holding something so literally a “babe in arms”

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ED NOTE – Please read Dan Brady’s posts on the Park and the soldier for the rest of the story.

Needless to say eventually we were left with “nothing but a flower bed”. But in 1964 the Veterans Council started to take an interest…….

You can also find the story of the disappearing and appearing monuments on Dan’s blog
http://danielebrady.blogspot.com/2012/06/honor-roll-in-washington-park-june-1964.html
VP6 Daughters of Union Veterans monument

Sadly now, in a forlorn little “public square of “memory” , is an urn which once stood near to where the fountain once stood, – erected by the Daughters of the Union in 1930- it stands still today a little unkempt but someone cared to plant flowers. The little urn is the only remembrance left of a civil war and of General Quincy Adams Gilmore ( yes! son of the same family who first gave part of their acreage to a little settlement on the river for a public square and whose homestead is now Lakeview Park) is only remembered in letters posted upon this blog
https://thatwoman.wordpress.com/2011/04/13/civil-war-letters-fannie-gilmore-lorain/

Sorry George !

PART 5 TO BE CONTINUED

July 27, 2013 at 1:32 pm 1 comment

Read all about it- 2nd chance home – see it and don’t believe it

3620-clifton-house

Take another pictorial walk over to
http://bustershouse.wordpress.com/2013/01/13/as-seen-in-lorain-3620-clifton-avenue-and-the-second-chance/
and read all about the house that is getting a 2nd chance by the demolition board—– well worth the “trip”

January 14, 2013 at 1:44 pm 20 comments

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